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From what I've read, taking Trenbolone can cause T3 level to drop, and it is recommended to take 25 mcg of T3 on daily basis, to minimize the drop in T3 level..

What do you guys think about this? Is it true?
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From what I've read, taking Trenbolone can cause T3 level to drop, and it is recommended to take 25 mcg of T3 on daily basis, to minimize the drop in T3 level..

What do you guys think about this? Is it true?
Can you link me to where you read this? I have never heard of this, nor have I ever seen anyone make a note to take t3 with tren. And finally, i've never seen a cycle where they included tren and t3.
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I also have never read about tren having any side effects on your thyroid. Link would help alot.
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Ok, I did a little bit more research on the topic and from what Ive read some people do believe that Trenbolone useage can lead to slightly lower T3 levels and increase the risk for prolactin. And from the articles I read, a small dose of T3 along with cabergoline can be used to combat the prolactin build up. Something like 1 mg/ week of cabergoline and 25mcg/day of T3 seems to be what some people like. Ive seen alot of articles on tren useage as well as logs, and have never personally seen someone use T3 to combat prolactin, so in all honesty you should be fine with just cabergoline. But if you have access to T3 and are really worried then I would say go for it. I would definately have bloodwork done before, during, and after your cycle though if your looking to use T3 and Tren. Both of them are pretty advanced compounds that should be taken very seriously. I would personally be more worried about my libido and possible insomnia while on the tren. Not to mention if you dont use the T3 properly you risk seriously screwing up your thyroid. Make sure you have a very good pct lined up and I would recommend incorporating some HCG into the end of your cycle as well. And if this is your first time using tren, which it sounds like it is, I would highly suggest using Tren ace, rather than enanthate. This will make it easier to discontinue useage if the side effects become too bad. Hope this helped, let us know if you have any other questions.
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Great post Enigma... I was unaware about this as well...
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Can you link me to where you read this? I have never heard of this, nor have I ever seen anyone make a note to take t3 with tren. And finally, i've never seen a cycle where they included tren and t3.
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I also have never read about tren having any side effects on your thyroid. Link would help alot.
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Ok, I did a little bit more research on the topic and from what Ive read some people do believe that Trenbolone useage can lead to slightly lower T3 levels and increase the risk for prolactin. And from the articles I read, a small dose of T3 along with cabergoline can be used to combat the prolactin build up. Something like 1 mg/ week of cabergoline and 25mcg/day of T3 seems to be what some people like. Ive seen alot of articles on tren useage as well as logs, and have never personally seen someone use T3 to combat prolactin, so in all honesty you should be fine with just cabergoline. But if you have access to T3 and are really worried then I would say go for it. I would definately have bloodwork done before, during, and after your cycle though if your looking to use T3 and Tren. Both of them are pretty advanced compounds that should be taken very seriously. I would personally be more worried about my libido and possible insomnia while on the tren. Not to mention if you dont use the T3 properly you risk seriously screwing up your thyroid. Make sure you have a very good pct lined up and I would recommend incorporating some HCG into the end of your cycle as well. And if this is your first time using tren, which it sounds like it is, I would highly suggest using Tren ace, rather than enanthate. This will make it easier to discontinue useage if the side effects become too bad. Hope this helped, let us know if you have any other questions.
Great post!

Yeah I've also read about the use of T3 could risk of screwing up the natural thyroid function, but also from this same site if you look at the link the author says that is not true --> Cytomel T3 Liothyrine Sodium Anabolic Steroids Profile

I'm not sure what is true or not, but it sure is an interesting discussion..

I absolutely agree with your suggestion of using Tren Ace for first time use of Tren, I won't be trying out Tren just yet, probably still another 2-3 cycles before I even think of trying it out, but I just would like to learn as much as possible about it from now..
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people really tend to over complicate tren cycles.

recommending t3 use to combat side effects isnt a wise idea. t3 is by itself a very potent and possibly dangerous substance to be running. the risk of having your thyroid not bounce back properly is more of a concern than some night sweats and a little nipple puffs. also, cabergoline has been shown in studies to enlarge the left ventricle of the heart (though of course in ridiculous study-type doses). t3 and caber are both no joke.

a much easier approach to reducing tren sides is to keep the tren levels as consistent as possible. This means not only ED injections, but same time of day ED injections. trenbolone is 5 times as androgenic and 4 times as anabolic as testosterone on paper, so even small variations in blood plasma levels are going to have a profound effect on protein synthesis and, more importantly, cortisol levels. the cortisol is what is going to effect your t3 level if it is fluctuating all over the place. keep it consistent and youre going to be much better off than loading yourself up on shit you dont need or want.
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I'd agree with Jomi on this. Most experienced tren users do not mess around with T3 and they are perfectly fine.
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people really tend to over complicate tren cycles.

recommending t3 use to combat side effects isnt a wise idea. t3 is by itself a very potent and possibly dangerous substance to be running. the risk of having your thyroid not bounce back properly is more of a concern than some night sweats and a little nipple puffs. also, cabergoline has been shown in studies to enlarge the left ventricle of the heart (though of course in ridiculous study-type doses). t3 and caber are both no joke.

a much easier approach to reducing tren sides is to keep the tren levels as consistent as possible. This means not only ED injections, but same time of day ED injections. trenbolone is 5 times as androgenic and 4 times as anabolic as testosterone as paper, so even small variations in blood plasma levels are going to have a profound effect on protein synthesis and, more importantly, cortisol levels. the cortisol is what is going to effect your t3 level if it is fluctuating all over the place. keep it consistent and youre going to be much better off than loading yourself up on shit you dont need or want.
Thanks for your input Jomi, I'll keep that in mind..
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Oh, one more thing, what do you guys do to combat the night sweats and insomnia, is by injecting ED should be sufficient to alleviate these symptoms? Or is there another method required to solve this problem?

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