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Hey guys I have recently brought up a thread for M-drol PCT in the PCT section, and am now inquiring for any info or experiences anyone may have on the afforementioned aas. Ive read the sticky and am elated that this particular aas is within my grasp if desired over M-drol; which im thinking is an emphatic HELL YEAH!!

Allow me to present a few question in blurb fashion: Supporting supps still the same? Armidex, clomid, or nolva? SNS stack? Boosting oral needed for efficacy? Glutes only? 500mg?

As always thanks in advance brothers
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Old 03-24-2008, 08:28 AM   #2
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Hey guys I have recently brought up a thread for M-drol PCT in the PCT section, and am now inquiring for any info or experiences anyone may have on the afforementioned aas. Ive read the sticky and am elated that this particular aas is within my grasp if desired over M-drol; which im thinking is an emphatic HELL YEAH!!

Allow me to present a few question in blurb fashion: Supporting supps still the same? Armidex, clomid, or nolva? SNS stack? Boosting oral needed for efficacy? Glutes only? 500mg?

As always thanks in advance brothers
Supporting supps arn't a rule in my rulebook, but yes they are the same.

Its not "Arimidex,clomid, or nolva" because arimidex is not the same as clomid and nolva. Arimidex is an AI, clomid and nolva are pct items.

SNS stack? what is this? I'm sure its completely unnecessary lol

You could kickstart your cycle with an oral while you're waiting for the test to kick in

Shooting twice a week you could pin only your glutes

500mg is a good starting dose/week
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Hey guys I have recently brought up a thread for M-drol PCT in the PCT section, and am now inquiring for any info or experiences anyone may have on the afforementioned aas. Ive read the sticky and am elated that this particular aas is within my grasp if desired over M-drol; which im thinking is an emphatic HELL YEAH!!

Allow me to present a few question in blurb fashion: Supporting supps still the same? Armidex, clomid, or nolva? SNS stack? Boosting oral needed for efficacy? Glutes only? 500mg?

As always thanks in advance brothers
Here's my advice on a similar, hypothetical situation, :D

Supporting supplements are great idea but not completely necessary. A test only cycle is pretty mild but you'll make great gains. You will be on cycle for 12 weeks, not including PCT so be sure you have the time to dedicate. M-Drol is easier in this regard as you can make excellent, fast gains in as little as 3 weeks (not including PCT). Test gains are slower but you can probably gain more over a longer period of time, they also seem to be a bit harder to keep though.

The SNS stack would not likely be enough for PCT. You could, however, run a low dose of Inhibit-E on cycle in the absense of arimidex (a stronger AI). If you did want to run the arimidex I would look at 0.25 mg/day max, considering you use 500 mg/week of test. For PCT I would recommend you go with Clomid () but you may want to buy some Nolva to have just in case you end up with gyno symptoms.

Ideally as stated in the previous post an oral is a great way to kickstart the cycle as test gains take a whileee to materialize. D-Bol, ran for about 4 weeks, would be the most popular choice in this regard.

As for pinning - you'll want to go 2x per week. If you do things right you shoudn't be too sore and should be able to do only glutes. By doing things right I mean using the proper gauge pin, warming the oil prior to injecting and massaging after injection (a brisk walk and a hot shower will do it too). You can inject a lot of places but the glutes are the easiest and least painful. Quads aren't too bad either.

GL with whatever you choose.
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I...same as clomid and nolva. Arimidex is an AI, clomid and nolva are pct items.
Wtf is a "pct item", that was such a noob comment.

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M-Drol is easier in this regard as you can make excellent, fast gains in as little as 3 weeks (not including PCT). Test gains are slower but you can probably gain more over a longer period of time, they also seem to be a bit harder to keep though.
Are you saying that M Drol gains are easier to keep then a 12 week test cycle? I would disagree....
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Ok I gather:
Supporting supps are not needed.
Inhibit E at one cap for AI.
Clomid for PCT.
500mg split into 2 doses per week pin in glutes.

Now I ponder:
Oil? (ive read about this grape seed oil guys use, is this what your referring to?)
D-bol needed? (could I just run the test?)
AI absolutely needed? (this is something I completely overlooked)
From my research Ive found for a 12wk test cyp cycle 3wk of clomid would suffice, agreed? (gotta love them stickies)
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Personally I would add the dball, but what is your cycle experience (I pry missed this)? You can still get good gains from 12 weeks of test.

Some guys even jumpstart with something like M Drol.....just an idea.

I would have an AI on hand just in case. Cyp is basically the same thing as Eth however it seems users report slightly more water retention.
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Wtf is a "pct item", that was such a noob comment.
Uh....are you retarded? "pct item" meaning something that is to be used in PCT. I'm negging you for incompetence!

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Ok I gather:
Supporting supps are not needed.
Inhibit E at one cap for AI.
Clomid for PCT.
500mg split into 2 doses per week pin in glutes.

Now I ponder:
D-bol needed? (could I just run the test?)
AI absolutely needed? (this is something I completely overlooked)
From my research Ive found for a 12wk test cyp cycle 3wk of clomid would suffice, agreed? (gotta love them stickies)
I'd personally use toremifine over clomid, but thats up to you.

Dbol isn't needed, you could just run test.

AI isn't so much absolutely needed, only if you bloat real bad. Not a bad thing to have on hand.

I'd take at least 4-5 weeks of a pct...whats the point of skimping a pct? its the determining factor of how much you will keep
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Uh....are you retarded? "pct item" meaning something that is to be used in PCT. I'm negging you for incompetence!
You probably think that your little "pct item" was actually created for use in PCT dont you? lmfao

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You probably think that your little "pct item" was actually created for use in PCT dont you? lmfao

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lol!! no I don't actually, but on this board it is used as a pct item!!! coqsuqer


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C'mon guys there is no need for this bickering! You have digressed from the topic at hand. This is an informative forum to share knowledge, teach, and learn; not to bicker! So please, back to the topic at hand.
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