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Old 04-23-2008, 08:06 PM   #11
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Very interesting. Do you have links from AM where you had discussions about these shorter cycles?
Check out this link LBVT, it's a good read:

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Dat do you have that full study?
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:52 AM   #15
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I honestly think it has to be the muscle. Did you have problems with Test Eth when you first hit quads?

I'm not sure I'll ever use EO again....
yea man. Sometimes (it was give or take) when I shot enth into my quads it hurt like a mofo. Right now i have really nothing but tenderness after every inject into delts and v-glutes.
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No I don't and I have tried... I can't even find an archive for the Journal of Investigative Medecine on their own website. I have searched a lot of Chinese websites for working login passwords for medical journals ...password lists for hundreds of journals but not one list had the Journal of Investigative Medecine.

Funny the Chinese kids share passwords for scientific journals and scanned copies of science books & all the American kids do is share Porn & passwords to porn. LOL
HAHAH yea that is so true.

Anyway. I have no doubt that any exogenous influence is almost immediately suppressive, however I think that an essentially non stop cycle with 2 week HPTA stim breaks will serve the purpose of keeping my HPTA warmed up so it doesnt "forget how to work" which sometimes happens after long cycles. Since it is not written in stone, i am just going to speculate how much easier it will be to recover after a few weeks of suppression vs. months of nonstop suppression and continued shutdown.

We will see how this method works. I would be interested in trying somethign like Dat PM'd me about (what he is doing). But right now I am trying to make progress a little more rapidly. If worse comes to worse this cycling approach may creep close to mimicking a nonstop 4 month cycle (that is if the 2 week HPTA stim and ester clearace/rest periods fail-which i doubt). Like I said, after these four months I plan to include more time off and more time priming (diet wise) so that each consecutive cycle is more effective and the result of a year's use is less or equal ON time as OFF time.

even if these 2 week PCT's do not fully restart my HPTA, looking at them from a restful standpoint, it will give my body time to rid itself of the exogenous hormones, help clear the AR's a bit, allow me prime a little bit and then hit it again. I think it may be even more effective at preventing a plateau than just remaining on for 4 months. we will see....
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pudzian2, so you started that thread over on AM, but what got you banned from there?
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pudzian2, so you started that thread over on AM, but what got you banned from there?
yea I was banned. Oh well... Funny thing was.. I didnt actually break a rule! Who cares though. This and other boards are very good.
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So pudz, how's the cycle going?
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two days into week 4. I dropped the tren as of yesterdays injection. Today just on about 650mg test for the week. I dont know whats going on but I have been training rather light recently and all of a sudden today 405 on the squat rack felt like nothing... All I can say is im happy with the progress. I will do a more detailed update and overview in a few days.

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