My burst cycling progress.

[LBVT]

Glad to hear it's going pretty well. Keep us updated!

[ozarkabrand]

Pudz right on! Hope the cycle goes well for ya!

[pudzian2]

sorry I havent been around in a while guys but here is some interesting update.

I extended my first 4 week burst to an 8 week cycle without HCG but... the boys arent really shrinking ( I the pGH helps a LITTLE with this).

Weeks 1-4: Test Prop 500mg per week
Weeks 1-3: Tren Ace: 500mg per week
Weeks 4-8: Test prop: 700mg per week
Weeks 5-8: NPP: 700mg Per week
Weeks 5-8: 40mg oral Winstrol ED (wanted to add proviron but source is out)

In week 5 right now:

After this cycle:

4 weeks HPTA stim/ PCT With Serm etc..... BUT I will also be using Pharma grade S-4 (YES THE REAL SARM!) to hold mass and see how it works.

then back on to another 4, 6, or 8 weeks of Test, NPP and proviron with 10iu Humalog PWO.

Instead of staying on forever I will be taking periodic 4-6 weeks off but I will be using S-4 during this time. I will most likely grab some HCG if shrinkage becomes a problem. I want to reach my goal physique as quickly and safely as possible. I have 4 months starting now to really concentrate on JUSt training, Dieting and bodybuilding. During this time i hope to make drastic improvements and then slow down with the AAS use to maintain and refine my physique and then do a contest prep run to see how i can do at competing.


I use .5mg Adex ED but and I am drinking lots of dandelion leaf tea but still seem to hold water. I hope the winny and proviron will help with this throughout the course of the next 4 months. I am only using winny for a little while. I am not fond of its toxicity etc.

Basically I have no intentions of NOT being on HRT after my AAS use stops. Even if i didnt use AAS i would opt for HRT if i qualify becuase i would rather feel better for the rest of my life than feel crummy and have erectile dysfunction.

[TerribleTowel]

Why exactly did you decide to extend your cycle to 8 weeks instead of 4? Did you just feel this would produce the best gains to time on ratio? Also very interested to see how the S-4 works for you. I've heard so much about the potential for SARM's, but have yet to see any user feedback. Best of luck to you with the rest of your cycle and keep us updated.

[Xodus]

Originally Posted by pudzian2

sorry I havent been around in a while guys but here is some interesting update.

I extended my first 4 week burst to an 8 week cycle without HCG but... the boys arent really shrinking ( I the pGH helps a LITTLE with this).

Weeks 1-4: Test Prop 500mg per week
Weeks 1-3: Tren Ace: 500mg per week
Weeks 4-8: Test prop: 700mg per week
Weeks 5-8: NPP: 700mg Per week
Weeks 5-8: 40mg oral Winstrol ED (wanted to add proviron but source is out)

In week 5 right now:

After this cycle:

4 weeks HPTA stim/ PCT With Serm etc..... BUT I will also be using Pharma grade S-4 (YES THE REAL SARM!) to hold mass and see how it works.

then back on to another 4, 6, or 8 weeks of Test, NPP and proviron with 10iu Humalog PWO.

Instead of staying on forever I will be taking periodic 4-6 weeks off but I will be using S-4 during this time. I will most likely grab some HCG if shrinkage becomes a problem. I want to reach my goal physique as quickly and safely as possible. I have 4 months starting now to really concentrate on JUSt training, Dieting and bodybuilding. During this time i hope to make drastic improvements and then slow down with the AAS use to maintain and refine my physique and then do a contest prep run to see how i can do at competing.


I use .5mg Adex ED but and I am drinking lots of dandelion leaf tea but still seem to hold water. I hope the winny and proviron will help with this throughout the course of the next 4 months. I am only using winny for a little while. I am not fond of its toxicity etc.

Basically I have no intentions of NOT being on HRT after my AAS use stops. Even if i didnt use AAS i would opt for HRT if i qualify becuase i would rather feel better for the rest of my life than feel crummy and have erectile dysfunction.

What did you get out of Tren in 3 weeks? Worth it? Should have been longer? sides?

I hear you on HRT, I am seriously considering a quick prop/tren cycle then cruising on Sust. for a few months, then hitting it again

Just blast and cruise. I feel WAY too good to go back to 'normal'...

[Gixxer82]

I'll be watching for your results from S-4. I'm just not sold on it, I think its all hype.

[Travis]

Originally Posted by Gixxer82

I'll be watching for your results from S-4. I'm just not sold on it, I think its all hype.

I am somewhat in the same boat as gizzer on this....anecdotally its completely unproven. BB must have got a shitton though he's getting it out to everyone lol.

[pudzian2]

Originally Posted by Xodus

What did you get out of Tren in 3 weeks? Worth it? Should have been longer? sides?

I hear you on HRT, I am seriously considering a quick prop/tren cycle then cruising on Sust. for a few months, then hitting it again

Just blast and cruise. I feel WAY too good to go back to 'normal'...

thats right man. even on 250mgs test per week ya just feel too damn good and healthy to go back to 'normal' however the only thing that bugs me about not comin off is shrinking but theres always good ol HCG... just hard to come by for me at least. I still plan on coming off but totally.. .like i said.. S-4

[pudzian2]

Originally Posted by Travis

I am somewhat in the same boat as gizzer on this....anecdotally its completely unproven. BB must have got a shitton though he's getting it out to everyone lol.

nah he actually didnt get that much. fucking olympics made it really hard for him to get it here. anyway.

I agree i am not thinkign that it will work wonders on its own however it SHOULD allow a bber like myself and you guys to take some time off wihout loosing evertyhing. If anything it could be very anti-catabolic. I feel it could go both ways... I mean its meant to prevent wasting in diseased patients..

i feel that it may help in conjunction with steroids... but hell maybe it will just compete with the receptor and leave us with non functional AAS floating around.. I dont know what its AR affinity is compared to some of the class I steroids... so maybe it would stack well with class II's? who knows.

I think for now since it is all speculation a good application and trial would be during OFF time which is what I am doing.

For those concerned:

I extended it to 8 weeks becuase I felt like it.. nothing more to it than that. I don't want to come off i just want to be healthy. 3 weeks of tren did exactly what i wanted it to. it cleaned me up a little bit prior to starting my bulk. I am LOVING 700mgs test prop and 700mgs NPP per week. Getting big, staying lean (lots of dandelion leaf tea and .5mgs arimidex ED for water weight). I am always hungry, horny and feeling great. My joints are healing up and I am able to lift heavy and strong.

I am coming off in 3 weeks for a 4 week S-4 run and PCT just to stimulate testicular function and then I am going back on (hopefully with HCG if i can get some) to continue this lean bulk. I will be adding 10iu Humalog PWO and some proviron like i said.

I am sort of just adjusting my plans as things happen becuase its too hard to predict, however i have a general outline. Test and NPP are mild and the side effects besides sweating are near 0.


I think burst cycling is something that will work for those less interested in making big progress. Maybe for someone who is trying to slowly improve and maintain an already built up physique.... that is what I may use it for. I think some of the theories are still solid though which is another reason why I like to let the drugs clear for a while and then hit it hard again. I feel it will keep my body responding better than just staying on year round.

[Gixxer82]

Originally Posted by pudzian2

nah he actually didnt get that much. fucking olympics made it really hard for him to get it here. anyway.

I agree i am not thinkign that it will work wonders on its own however it SHOULD allow a bber like myself and you guys to take some time off wihout loosing evertyhing. If anything it could be very anti-catabolic. I feel it could go both ways... I mean its meant to prevent wasting in diseased patients..

A lot of AAS were developed to prevent wasting.

I think burst cycling is something that will work for those less interested in making big progress. Maybe for someone who is trying to slowly improve and maintain an already built up physique.... that is what I may use it for. I think some of the theories are still solid though which is another reason why I like to let the drugs clear for a while and then hit it hard again. I feel it will keep my body responding better than just staying on year round.

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