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Old 05-09-2008, 08:34 PM   #1
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Many of you have seen and/or are follwoing my "burst cycling" thread. Although im not essentially using AAS like that anymore (at least for a while- i want to reach my goal in a different more straight forward way).

I am using 700mg Test prop and 700mg NPP per week with .5 arimidex per day.

It is a great way to lean bulk. Little bloat if any, lots of strength, tendons and joints are getting very strong. I feel great. Libido is crazy! Im hungry like no other (eating every 1.5-3 hours and ALOT of food). and size is coming pretty quickly.

Here is my plan. for the next 3 months I will be continuing with Test prop and NPP (probably taking 1-2 little breaks for some HPTA stimulus while using S-4 (SARM).

-I end my first run of 8 weeks in about 3 more weeks, after which I will do my first Post AAS S-4 use ( I will probably be using 5iu slin PWO with this). THEN....

Back on NPP and Test using 10iu PWO OR 5iu AM and 5iu PWO (probably the former not the latter method).. anyway. I MAY also add proviron at 50mg per day to help with hardening and some estro side effects... (I can lower my AI dose probably).

then I will take another break and use S-4 and low dose slin to hold my gains.... and now here is the fun part:

After that rest period i will take 2 weeks or so OFF of everything. and then do the follwing cycle or something similar because I am still planning (thats where you guys come in!-- with suggestions!).

-Test Prop weeks 1-10: 1000mg per week

-Tren Acetate: weeks 1-8: 525mg per week

-Bold prop if i can get some- may just frontload the hell out of EQ: 250-300mg per week for joints and appetite

-Masteron: weeks 8-10: Dose suggestion?

Proviron (maybe): weeks 1-5: 25-50mg per day

Winstrol: weeks 6-10: 20-40mg per day

Humalog: weeks 1-4: 10iu PWO

pGH: .33cc ED (all year)

** Note this cycle resembles a pre contest cycle to some degree however it is pretty hardcore... I do plan on competing next year and may use this as my contest prep with a few changes, however even If I do not, It will surely take my physique to a whole new level and allow me to get into competition and make preparing for a show a little easier. This cycle will without a doubt add solid lean muscle while shedding a good amount of fat if I get my diet right with it. For that type of cycle I will be eating LOTS of protein and towards the end I will cycle my carbs and up the cardio. ( I am not truly trying to get into contest ready shape however I want to get close). It is not a cutting cycle per-se.
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you could pry run the masteron much longer than 3 weeks. i'd run it alongside the winny starting at week 6.
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Its too much, all that is not necessary.

what are your stats?
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what are your stats?
I agree with you man, however i think that it will work quite well. It is not really all that much at ONCE, however I would really like to eliminate the orals... not a fan of their effects on HDL/LDL especially. That is side effect I concern myself with the most from AAS use... (especially orals)
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I agree with you man, however i think that it will work quite well. It is not really all that much at ONCE, however I would really like to eliminate the orals... not a fan of their effects on HDL/LDL especially. That is side effect I concern myself with the most from AAS use... (especially orals)
Definitely will work well.

Bold prop sounds awesome, only thing i've ever seen for sale is bold cyp.
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i have seen bold prop once before but it was a while back
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Definitely will work well.

Bold prop sounds awesome, only thing i've ever seen for sale is bold cyp.
yea man. I dont know where to get it. I dont like running EQ becuase it takes SOO long to build up and clear... and gave me a nasty rebound effect with my joints.. they were strong as hell on cycle and after they were crackly and brittle like an old fart. anyway Idk if can blame the EQ for that. I would use low dose NPP but the hell im combining NPP and tren.. thats progestin gyno waiting to happen.

BTW. On NPP my nipples are fine. however there are tiny hard lumps that aren't going away from tren. Just goes to show how strong trenbolone's affinity for the PR is... at least in me. I may shave some orals out of that cycle i planned above:

the proviron should help with the gyno and estro sides etc while being mild. however the winny is toxic but itts only used for a short while. Also. I am using masteron when the tren drops out. Id rather use masteron running right into a show than tren. I dont want to take both at once becuase thats WAY to androgenic in my opinion.

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were you running nolva with the tren? i've heard that nolva aggravates prolactin induced gyno when combined with tren. could be your source for the lumps and why they didnt go away. it might be worth something to drop the nolva, if used, and throw some caber in there next time you run the tren.
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were you running nolva with the tren? i've heard that nolva aggravates prolactin induced gyno when combined with tren. could be your source for the lumps and why they didnt go away. it might be worth something to drop the nolva, if used, and throw some caber in there next time you run the tren.
I am not using nolva, I use arimidex at .5mgs a day or so ( I adjust dose according to bloating symptoms and joints etc).

the lumps are still there however they do not appear to be getting worse..... Im sure they will be noticeable when I am crazy lean however right now they aren't really.

I did some research on all this prolactin/ progestin induced gyno thing and there really isnt any clear cut answer. We dont know for sure what is causing the problem. personally I think it has more to do with trenbolones affinity for the PR than it does with prolactin.
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