Newbie... Deca Test cycle?

[distilled water]

Originally Posted by usf97j4x4

Help yes... hold hands... no. There is a VAST amount of knowledge out on the internet about AAS cycles. You need to learn the basics on your on. I have no problem helping with specifics.

check steroid.com isteroids etc etc - these sites have a lot of information and are a good start.

I second this

[musclebuilder52]

Originally Posted by usf97j4x4

Actually if you stop the testosterone at week 12 you really wouldnt need to start the SERM until week 14 as testosterone enanthate has a very long half life. I personally wouldn't run Nolva for 6 weeks and I also would not exceed 20 mg/day. I would have some Nolva on hand but I prefer Clomid for PCT as it is MUCH better at restarting HPTA.

In lieu of using proviron, I would instead consider adding in some Arimidex during the cycle, probably 0.25 mg/day or 0.25 mg/every other day to counter any possibly bloating.

so take out the proviron and run Test E alone.. arimidex throughout the cycle? thanks

[musclebuilder52]

Originally Posted by distilled water

I second this

yeah true i know what u guys mean but im sure u guys asked questions 2 and ive read steroidtips and other sites ive read so many that not all is the same and im trying to get it all down from step 2 step i am just mostly concerned about how to run a PCT and on hand things u dont run arimidex or clomid while on the cycle unless u come up with gyno or a bloat right?

[Gixxer82]

Originally Posted by musclebuilder52

Thanks again for the help... Hope to see some good results 1 more thing what is so bad with the deca? People say that is helps joints while building mass...

There is nothing wrong with deca, I would never run a cycle without deca or eq, but thats just me. They are good at keeping your tendons strong. The only reason deca isn't recommended to "newbies" is because it will shut you down hardcore, and it takes a while for the ester to clear, hence you would have to run an overall longer cycle, stop deca 2 weeks before you stop test at least, then another 2 weeks after you stop test to run pct.

[usf97j4x4]

Originally Posted by musclebuilder52

yeah true i know what u guys mean but im sure u guys asked questions 2 and ive read steroidtips and other sites ive read so many that not all is the same and im trying to get it all down from step 2 step i am just mostly concerned about how to run a PCT and on hand things u dont run arimidex or clomid while on the cycle unless u come up with gyno or a bloat right?

See now we're getting specific. Actually I got all my info from steroid.com and anabolics books before I even knew what a forum was.

You would never run Clomid on cycle... but yes you can run arimidex to control bloat and other estrogen related sides. Keep a minimal dose though. A-dex can have some nasty sides on its own at higher doses.

[Gixxer82]

Originally Posted by usf97j4x4

See now we're getting specific. Actually I got all my info from steroid.com and anabolics books before I even knew what a forum was.

You would never run Clomid on cycle... but yes you can run arimidex to control bloat and other estrogen related sides. Keep a minimal dose though. A-dex can have some nasty sides on its own at higher doses.

and because estrogen is a good thing

[distilled water]

Originally Posted by musclebuilder52

yeah true i know what u guys mean but im sure u guys asked questions 2 and ive read steroidtips and other sites ive read so many that not all is the same and im trying to get it all down from step 2 step i am just mostly concerned about how to run a PCT and on hand things u dont run arimidex or clomid while on the cycle unless u come up with gyno or a bloat right?

Its also understand how the compounds function via what pathways and how they work together etc....

You can run a-dex throughout to minimize bloat and keep the gyno monster away if your prone to it or have an existing case. Something like .25mg EOD (every other day) would be a good protocol.

I'd say its best to stick with one injectable your first time so you know what to expect and like Gixx said ish will shut you down hard and has a long ass ester.

Gixx is a seasoned vet with this stuff, Mr. Gixx you ran Test Prop with an oral your first go, am I wrong?

[usf97j4x4]

Originally Posted by Gixxer82

and because estrogen is a good thing

Yes, the OP needs to be clear that some estrogen is necessary.. without it your joints will hate you

[usf97j4x4]

Originally Posted by distilled water

Its also understand how the compounds function via what pathways and how they work together etc....

You can run a-dex throughout to minimize bloat and keep the gyno monster away if your prone to it or have an existing case. Something like .25mg EOD (every other day) would be a good protocol.

I'd say its best to stick with one injectable your first time so you know what to expect and like Gixx said ish will shut you down hard and has a long ass ester.

Gixx is a seasoned vet with this stuff, Mr. Gixx you ran Test Prop with an oral your first go, am I wrong?

Test prop is great stuff if you can deal with it. I dont like EOD injections, especially with the prop i've seen with high BA

[musclebuilder52]

Ok so i see deca will have a water bloat and on the website u refer steroid.com says some shT i dont understand but i see it has a good chance at gyno and other side effects when u mean it shuts down ur system meaning what exactly? Sorry im asking questions but some websites cant answer them to simple form... aka i dont understand some doctor form. And prop i dont want to shoot EOD so im thinking of going with that pain. And Dbol isnt that take away all the gains and streanth u gain from it after cycle even with the right PCT..?

Deca
Says to have nolva hcg and clomid thats why i got confused with PCT should i run all those or stick with what? And which is better for gyno nolva or clomid

Either way i wanted to run the Test E and ill take the A-dex with it as well and have nolva for PCT and have nolva on hand ... Anymore products for my PCT or on hand?