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[DR_C]

Originally Posted by musclebuilder52

My bf is about 16 and yeah i train hard 5 times a wk and i dont have them but going to get them as soon as im set with my for sure cycle 1 of my friends told me he ran dianabol with test cyp and worked out great i was thinking of getting rid of the decka and sticking with 400mg test cyp wk and kickstart dianabol with either 20mg's-30mgs 4wks Arimidex on hand for the bloat with nolva on hand in case of gyno and PCT nolva clomid and i was gonna run test for 12 wks '

i have been researching and its hard to come up with the 1st time cycle thanks for the help again people

Again, I'd be able to give you my two cents if I knew what your goals were in doing a cycle and also, what is your body weight, age, years training.

Regards,

[musclebuilder52]

DR c i heard many good things about u thanks for responding to my POST not 2 be all over ur nuts n all but yeah thanks and thanks for the rest of the advice peoples! My goals are to get big and keep most of my gains with proper PCT what i have been reading for the past 5 months is suppose to help I have read heard so many different cycles its crazy so im trying to find my 1st cycle and with good advice helps a lot.... So goals are Get bigger and streangth is going to go up with both dianabol and test more of a bulking cycle my body weight is 188 i am 23 going on 24 yrs old i have been training hard for the past 5 years

test c should i run for 10 wks or 12? thanks bro's

[ItalianGuns]

Originally Posted by musclebuilder52

DR c i heard many good things about u thanks for responding to my POST not 2 be all over ur nuts n all but yeah thanks and thanks for the rest of the advice peoples! My goals are to get big and keep most of my gains with proper PCT what i have been reading for the past 5 months is suppose to help I have read heard so many different cycles its crazy so im trying to find my 1st cycle and with good advice helps a lot.... So goals are Get bigger and streangth is going to go up with both dianabol and test more of a bulking cycle my body weight is 188 i am 23 going on 24 yrs old i have been training hard for the past 5 years

test c should i run for 10 wks or 12? thanks bro's

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Good luck with cycle, eat like a horse.

[DR_C]

Originally Posted by musclebuilder52

DR c i heard many good things about u thanks for responding to my POST not 2 be all over ur nuts n all but yeah thanks and thanks for the rest of the advice peoples! My goals are to get big and keep most of my gains with proper PCT what i have been reading for the past 5 months is suppose to help I have read heard so many different cycles its crazy so im trying to find my 1st cycle and with good advice helps a lot.... So goals are Get bigger and streangth is going to go up with both dianabol and test more of a bulking cycle my body weight is 188 i am 23 going on 24 yrs old i have been training hard for the past 5 years

test c should i run for 10 wks or 12? thanks bro's

From what you've written, I think you have good plan so far. I'll offer a couple of thoughts.

1. I'd suggest you run a test only cycle since you are new to this. There are a couple of basics that you can garner from a test only cycle initially. First, When you are running a test only cycle, you have not doubt what and how well your cycle is working for you. If you start stack on your first cycle, such as test and deca, then you don't really have a good idea of the a cause and effect relationship with your supps.

So, for your first cycle, 500 mg - 750 mg of Test is a great starter cycle.

2. I personally think longer cycles are better when doing long lasting ester. At the 12 week mark, you are really just getting into the sweet spot of esters like test e or test c. So, 16 weeks is my suggestion on long esters.

3. If you must, a Dbol kick start is OK for no more than 4 weeks. At your body weight, 30 mg daily for 28 days should be more than enough. Dbol kicks in around the 12th day so that should give you a nice bump until the test kicks in the 5th week.

4. On a test and dbol cycle, run a-dex, at .05 mg EOD. Start the same day you take your first shot and or Dbol.

5. Check on my recommendations for PCT in one of my other posts.

6. No screwing around on your diet - eat, eat, and eat so more. At least 275 grams of protein daily. Do not drink - there is no value in those calories.

7. If you have any issues with male pattern baldness in your family, I suggest you look into some Finasteride. With cycles that have a heavy test base, finasteride is a must in my opinion if you want to have a nice head of hair when you hit 40.

I'd think you can expect a good 15 pounds on this cycle.

Regards,

[musclebuilder52]

Originally Posted by DR_C

From what you've written, I think you have good plan so far. I'll offer a couple of thoughts.

1. I'd suggest you run a test only cycle since you are new to this. There are a couple of basics that you can garner from a test only cycle initially. First, When you are running a test only cycle, you have not doubt what and how well your cycle is working for you. If you start stack on your first cycle, such as test and deca, then you don't really have a good idea of the a cause and effect relationship with your supps.

So, for your first cycle, 500 mg - 750 mg of Test is a great starter cycle.

2. I personally think longer cycles are better when doing long lasting ester. At the 12 week mark, you are really just getting into the sweet spot of esters like test e or test c. So, 16 weeks is my suggestion on long esters.

3. If you must, a Dbol kick start is OK for no more than 4 weeks. At your body weight, 30 mg daily for 28 days should be more than enough. Dbol kicks in around the 12th day so that should give you a nice bump until the test kicks in the 5th week.

4. On a test and dbol cycle, run a-dex, at .05 mg EOD. Start the same day you take your first shot and or Dbol.

5. Check on my recommendations for PCT in one of my other posts.

6. No screwing around on your diet - eat, eat, and eat so more. At least 275 grams of protein daily. Do not drink - there is no value in those calories.

7. If you have any issues with male pattern baldness in your family, I suggest you look into some Finasteride. With cycles that have a heavy test base, finasteride is a must in my opinion if you want to have a nice head of hair when you hit 40.

I'd think you can expect a good 15 pounds on this cycle.

Regards,

Dr.c Thanks for the great info bro! Im looking forward to starting my cycle in a few weeks im going to run the Test cyp Dianabol kickstart once I start my cycle I will keep an update and try and post pics with a weekly log workout thanks again bro's cant wait to Grow!!

[Gixxer82]

Originally Posted by THEHUGE

just my 0,2 cents: cyp+dbol is fine but if I was you I'd switch to EQ+winny in the last 3 weeks to make transition to pct smoother.

Wherever you got that info, shoot them lol...switching to EQ in the last three weeks isn't going to do anything...deca will take at least 3 weeks to clear...and EQ takes like 4-5 weeks at LEAST, it is a longer ester than enanthate/cyp, to kick in...soooooooo its not going to do anything..

[THEHUGE]

better cold turkey without a less androgenic transition in your opinion?I took that info nowhere,just my approach on long cycles.

[DR_C]

Originally Posted by THEHUGE

better cold turkey without a less androgenic transition in your opinion?I took that info nowhere,just my approach on long cycles.

Word 82!

Builder52,

From the cycle we discussed - straight cyp w/Dbol kicker, I suggest you not bridge into PCT. Cyp has an active half life of about 12+/- days so I recommend that most folks begin PCT 12 days after their last shot of cyp.

Again, since this is your first cycle, don't attempt to bridge into PCT. You'd just be confusing the issue.

Regards,

[Gixxer82]

Originally Posted by THEHUGE

better cold turkey without a less androgenic transition in your opinion?I took that info nowhere,just my approach on long cycles.

Why would you drop the deca, but then ADD in eq 3 weeks before pct, explain this to me.

[THEHUGE]

Originally Posted by Gixxer82

Why would you drop the deca, but then ADD in eq 3 weeks before pct, explain this to me.

Read again the thread.What deca???we're talking about a test-only cycle frontloaded with dbol. I was suggesting week10-12 EQ and pct started on week 14.