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Hey Dinoiii, I know you are pre-occupied with much more important things right now. So whenever you get a chance that would be great.

My wife got into a car accident last friday and apparently broke her right foot (according to the x-rays yesterday), it was her 5th metatarsil, the orthopedic said it was lined up really well and doesnt recommend surgery unless it becomes out of line.....which she goes to see him in 2 weeks (on Feb 4).....

I had read that cissus was pretty good for breaks and fractures....

is there anything else she could take that would aid her recovery? What would be the dosing? if you need any more info jsut let me know.....thanks again D
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Hey there,

First, I am sorry for your wife's misfortune and I do wish her a speedy recovery.

Fractures are the one time I actually do like to employ cissus and especially in females (one may question the potential benefit in the non-menopausal female still, but this is likely splitting hairs).

For cissus, low-end (gastric mucosal stress prevention) would be about 500mg...however, for something like fractures, I am more inclined to suggest anywhere from 1-3 grams (1000-3000mg) and much as you may have guessed is dependent upon body mass.


As far as potential additional supplements that may aid her plight:

Obviously some particular supplement combos may aid her like

[1] Vitamin C + Hydroxyproline + Hydroxylysine (you can use the non-hydroxylated versions which will likely be easier on you t find and the results are almost the same)

[2] Calcium + Vitamin D

[an interesting note is that zinc is required for adequate processing of Vitamin D, yet calcium inhibits zinc absorption...so I would make certain she is still getting some vitamin D at night with zinc and in the day with calcium]


* I'd also ask that she actually decrease her Vitamin A intake (not an easy request, most responsible suggestion would likely include elimination of supplementation during her recovery).


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Hey there,

First, I am sorry for your wife's misfortune and I do wish her a speedy recovery.

Fractures are the one time I actually do like to employ cissus and especially in females (one may question the potential benefit in the non-menopausal female still, but this is likely splitting hairs).

For cissus, low-end (gastric mucosal stress prevention) would be about 500mg...however, for something like fractures, I am more inclined to suggest anywhere from 1-3 grams (1000-3000mg) and much as you may have guessed is dependent upon body mass.


As far as potential additional supplements that may aid her plight:

Obviously some particular supplement combos may aid her like

[1] Vitamin C + Hydroxyproline + Hydroxylysine (you can use the non-hydroxylated versions which will likely be easier on you t find and the results are almost the same)

[2] Calcium + Vitamin D

[an interesting note is that zinc is required for adequate processing of Vitamin D, yet calcium inhibits zinc absorption...so I would make certain she is still getting some vitamin D at night with zinc and in the day with calcium]


* I'd also ask that she actually decrease her Vitamin A intake (not an easy request, most responsible suggestion would likely include elimination of supplementation during her recovery).


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