Help classifying compounds..

[THEHUGE]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

I would like to appologize for that post, I was mistaken. 1ad converts to 1T which converts to basically 5a reduced boldenone.. which is what m1t is when the methyl breaks off (1-T). Dianabol is basically a methylated form of 5a reduced boldenone (im pretty sure) right? lol I get confused when it gets to the reduction point, youre talking to a guy who barely passed high school chem

no. dianabol is methylated boldenone,not 5a reduced .

[egodog48]

Originally Posted by xtyler

no. dianabol is methylated boldenone,not 5a reduced .

I dont get this. How is this possible if dianabol is methandrostenolone? What are your resources saying this as Im very confused by this right now?

[THEHUGE]

the 5a reduced methylboldenone is M1T. is it really that difficult folks?

[Voodoo]

Originally Posted by xtyler

the 5a reduced methylboldenone is M1T. is it really that difficult folks?

Well ya dont need to be mean about it

[egodog48]

Originally Posted by xtyler

the 5a reduced methylboldenone is M1T. is it really that difficult folks?

Im quite aware of that fact already, but then how does it relate to dianabol???

mind showing a conversion table for us ignorant farm folk?

[thesinner]

Originally Posted by egodog48

Im quite aware of that fact already, but then how does it relate to dianabol???

mind showing a conversion table for us ignorant farm folk?

Steroid chemical checklists:

methylboldenone:
[x]androstane ring
[x]17-alpha-methyl
[x]double bond between carbon 4 & 5 (4-ene)
[x]double bond between carbon 1 & 2 (1-ene)

M1T
[x]androstane ring
[x]17-alpha-methyl
[ ]double bond between carbon 4 & 5 (4-ene)
[x]double bond between carbon 1 & 2 (1-ene)

Methyltest
[x]androstane ring
[x]17-alpha-methyl
[x]double bond between carbon 4 & 5 (4-ene)
[ ]double bond between carbon 1 & 2 (1-ene)


*5-alpha-reduction of a steroid removes the double bond between carbons 4 & 5. Therefore, M1T is the 5-alpha-reduced metabolite of dianabol. Don't get cocky when taking your Dbol's though, it doesn't 5-alpha-reduce at a very appreciable rate.

[Voodoo]

Originally Posted by thesinner

Steroid chemical checklists:

methylboldenone:
[x]androstane ring
[x]17-alpha-methyl
[x]double bond between carbon 4 & 5 (4-ene)
[x]double bond between carbon 1 & 2 (1-ene)

M1T
[x]androstane ring
[x]17-alpha-methyl
[ ]double bond between carbon 4 & 5 (4-ene)
[x]double bond between carbon 1 & 2 (1-ene)

Methyltest
[x]androstane ring
[x]17-alpha-methyl
[x]double bond between carbon 4 & 5 (4-ene)
[ ]double bond between carbon 1 & 2 (1-ene)


*5-alpha-reduction of a steroid removes the double bond between carbons 4 & 5. Therefore, M1T is the 5-alpha-reduced metabolite of dianabol. Don't get cocky when taking your Dbol's though, it doesn't 5-alpha-reduce at a very appreciable rate.

you must spread reputation before giving to the sinner

[xjsynx]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

you must spread reputation before giving to the sinner

I got yo back...

[egodog48]

Originally Posted by thesinner

Steroid chemical checklists:

methylboldenone:
[x]androstane ring
[x]17-alpha-methyl
[x]double bond between carbon 4 & 5 (4-ene)
[x]double bond between carbon 1 & 2 (1-ene)

M1T
[x]androstane ring
[x]17-alpha-methyl
[ ]double bond between carbon 4 & 5 (4-ene)
[x]double bond between carbon 1 & 2 (1-ene)

Methyltest
[x]androstane ring
[x]17-alpha-methyl
[x]double bond between carbon 4 & 5 (4-ene)
[ ]double bond between carbon 1 & 2 (1-ene)


*5-alpha-reduction of a steroid removes the double bond between carbons 4 & 5. Therefore, M1T is the 5-alpha-reduced metabolite of dianabol. Don't get cocky when taking your Dbol's though, it doesn't 5-alpha-reduce at a very appreciable rate.

Thank you. That is much clearer now.....