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Dr. Houser,

A quick question regarding possible solutions to a problem I've recently encountered. I'm am currently having issues enjoying sex with my girlfriend, and climaxing. However, I have zero problems achieving erection, and zero problems keeping an erection during sex. Now that the rather graphic portion is over, I'll get into a little explanation. I just finished a four week cycle of Havoc, nothing new there. I'm currently in day 4 of post cycle therapy, and I'm having no other issues. This is the first time I've had this issue, and is not the first time that I've cycled. It has only been in the last week of my four week cycle that this issue reared its ugly head, and it's somewhat stressful to me (which is an additional inhibitor to sexual satisfaction, go figure). I've done a little research looking into possible reasons for this issue and one I keep coming upon is low levels of Histamine. I've actually found some rather interesting literature mentioning that Histamine and it's precursor, the amino acid Histidine, are factors in length of time a gentleman can go. In other words, from my research I've found that high levels of Histamine can result in pre-mature ejaculation, and low levels the opposite. A little background on me

Age: 23
Height: 5'11
Weight: 194 lbs
BF: 12%
Prescription Meds: None
Allergies: None

I've also asked myself if this is a psychological issue as opposed to physical and here is my reasoning behind siding with physical. I'm under no undue stress. My relationship with my girlfriend has never been better. Things are actually quite alright in my life, except work sucks. But then again who doesn't have that complaint a couple of times a week.

I also looked into L-histidine the amino acid, as it seems this is easier on the system, dosing at roughly 1000mg three times daily. I'm not sure I'd go that high, but dosages are something I'll work out later if this indeed is the issue.

Lastly, I'm sure a blood test would assist you, however, my blood test is not scheduled until post PCT, as I like to see how well I've leveled things back out and if I need to continue protocol or change things up. Therefore, I won't even be getting a blood test for another three and half weeks.

If there is anything else that you would like to know about me, please feel free to ask.

Side Note: I've never had issues of this sort before. Perhaps going to quickly back in my younger years, but never this particular problem.
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BTW, what did you run for PCT?
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I'm currently running the following for PCT:

Tamoxifen Citrate: 20/15/10mg
Formadrol Xtreme (AI): 1/2/3/4 pills/day
Retain 2: 3/3/3/2
DTHC (diesel test hardcore): 2/4/(4-6)/4

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Although rare, tamoxifen can lead to prolonged erection and when combined with Formadrol (in increasing dosages) as it has ATD in it can certainly prove problematic. If it is your decision to continue use of both concurrent agents - despite generally well-recognized reverse ramp protocol, I would fully cease the tamoxifen early personally and try and keep steady tabs on the Formadrol product (next time, choose an alternative AI for enhanced effect).


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Although rare, tamoxifen can lead to prolonged erection and when combined with Formadrol (in increasing dosages) as it has ATD in it can certainly prove problematic. If it is your decision to continue use of both concurrent agents - despite generally well-recognized reverse ramp protocol, I would fully cease the tamoxifen early personally and try and keep steady tabs on the Formadrol product (next time, choose an alternative AI for enhanced effect).


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Well thanks for the info Doc. I've never heard that about tamoxifen, so perhaps I'll cut it out early (although I'd be nervous to cut it out after only a week) and just moderate my usage of Formadrol based off how my body is responding to pct since the epithio-type designers seem fairly mild (side effect wise) to boot.
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Yes, they are SO mild that they probably don't need a SERM to begin with at say 4 weeks or so.

(barring no contaminants, of course...)

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Anything with atd in it is going to destroy your sex drive, and INHIBIT recovery. your pct is complete overkill, why not just use the serm for 4 weeks?
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Anything with atd in it is going to destroy your sex drive, and INHIBIT recovery. your pct is complete overkill, why not just use the serm for 4 weeks?
Good question boss. I've used Formadrol before without reduction in sex drive, but that probably doesn't apply to this particular case, as my hormones are unbalanced. As for using the serm for 4 weeks, I just don't think a four week course of a serm is completely necessary for an epithio (then again, I did err on the side of caution for pct as you can see ) and I'm in no way an expert on these things. Does the following setup make more sense?

New possible protocol:

Tamox: 15/10mg
Form: Removed

Retain 2: 2/2/2/2 (I don't see anything wrong with running a cort control product)
DTHC: 2/2/4/4 (Gives me something to do)

I'd almost look at the Retain 2/DTHC as a non-hormonal stack for kicks than as PCT protocol.

Thanks for the help both Dr. Houser and Jomi. Appreciate your input.

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