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Old 07-18-2008, 08:54 PM   #1
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Theres a lot of arguing back and forth whether implementing an AI into use for an 18 yr old is safe or not.

Whats your view on AI use at the age of 18? What AI would you recommend?
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:21 PM   #2
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Theres a lot of arguing back and forth whether implementing an AI into use for an 18 yr old is safe or not.

Whats your view on AI use at the age of 18? What AI would you recommend?
Good question.
Old 07-18-2008, 09:36 PM   #3
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I'd also like to ask about gaining height with an AI if growth plates are still open. Is this true?
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bump. I didnt mess with this stuff till I was about 20 but thats only cause I didnt know about it earlier.... Some of the other guys will have better info for you
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I personaly think you or any other 18 year old should wait you don't want to take a chance and mess your hormones up at a young age . I didnt start the use of AIs till I was 32
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I think the whole issue of "18" is really pushing it when it comes to hormonals.

For some reason 18 seems to be a "adult" year, but when your my age and look back, I didn't feel or look "fully developed" until maybe 23. For crying out loud, at 18 I had like 3 chest hairs and shaved every other day.

I remember the feeling guys, "I'm 18 now. A legal adult. I can vote, and go to war and make all my own decisions without Mom and Dad".
And of course there's the other story of....
"She looked 18 to me."

I think it's more of development than age when it comes to hormonals, so maybe there's a test to see how much farther you can develop. Grow plate measurements?
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I think the whole issue of "18" is really pushing it when it comes to hormonals.

For some reason 18 seems to be a "adult" year, but when your my age and look back, I didn't feel or look "fully developed" until maybe 23. For crying out loud, at 18 I had like 3 chest hairs and shaved every other day.

I remember the feeling guys, "I'm 18 now. A legal adult. I can vote, and go to war and make all my own decisions without Mom and Dad".
And of course there's the other story of....
"She looked 18 to me."

I think it's more of development than age when it comes to hormonals, so maybe there's a test to see how much farther you can develop. Grow plate measurements?

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yeah that was a good post.
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Theres a lot of arguing back and forth whether implementing an AI into use for an 18 yr old is safe or not.
Safe is a relative term. In other words, you have define what would be considered adequate "safety" standards and this likely differs amongst different people.

For instance, C17-alkylated prohormones aren't exactly "safe" from a hepatic health standpoint and many know this but still chose to use them.

I think what has to be more accurately pegged as weighing the positives to negatives would seem most sufficient response to this question without judgement.

The positives would be: ______________________

The negatives would be: _______________________

Does one outweight the other in your eyes?




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Whats your view on AI use at the age of 18? What AI would you recommend?
My view as perhaps noted above is a qualified "it depends." I mean, there are many considerations to take into account here. And namely, I don't believe taking anything without rationale makes sense. So - with this newfound understanding between us, tell me - what the hypothesized use of the AI would be for. [also note: There are reasons I believe it would be "ok" and others I think may be "unjustified" so don't hesitate to be as explicit as possible]




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I'd also like to ask about gaining height with an AI if growth plates are still open. Is this true?
There are two growth patterns to concern yourself with. Horizontal and vertical. They are governed by different cellular lines. While vertical appears to be positively impacted if tall is the choice for status quo, horizontal is not aided in the long run - which can contribute to sheer stress on the ends of long bones and subsequently joints and so on - so this isn't such a black and white affair as your e-guru may lend many into fantasy-belief that it is an all-or-none affair and this has never been argued by the actual scientific literature.


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Yea, thanks for all the responses. I agree with the fact that not everyone is the same and that these things should be used with caution and such.
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