Double Check my pimpin sticky

[Voodoo]

http://www.discountanabolics.com/for...ead.php?t=7766

Double check my ph classifications if you could Dana. Obviously I have no idea what Epithios stem from, Propadrol comes from, Phera is DHEA correct... so on so forth. Thanks man. Just wanna make sure I dont kill the newbs.

[dinoiii]

Epithos + Prop are both have AI effects, but Epithos in particular have significant binding to the androgen receptor. Its not necessarily a clean fit here in either case. I am leaning on suggesting Epithos to not really fit at all because of it already being 5-alpha reduced which is actually another thing that should be considered here.

I am unsure if you are asking if Phera = DHEA, but if that is the case...then my answer is NO.

Have you put a copy of that sticky here at LB???


Have some reps for your efforts!



Aside: I am preparing a very structurally oriented article series on this as we speak though as well. This is the first-ever that I have done for obvious reasons. It is something that likely will not make mainstream article press, but more left in reserve for the CU (unsure about this though - the articles fall where they may...most often controversial stuff will fall in the CU though).

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[muad33b]

Dude, is that Class I/II listing at the top of that thread accurate? (I guess maybe that's what you're asking D_ to reivew?)

Anyhow, if so, you should repost that over here: http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/showth...-55/index.html

So, I'm also guessing from all this that the classification has to do with the "parent" compound?

[dinoiii]

Originally Posted by muad33b

Dude, is that Class I/II listing at the top of that thread accurate? (I guess maybe that's what you're asking D_ to reivew?)

Anyhow, if so, you should repost that over here: http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/showth...-55/index.html

So, I'm also guessing from all this that the classification has to do with the "parent" compound?

Nope ... affinity for the androgen recptor dictates class designation. Outside of this alternative MOAs are offered for Class II's.


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[Voodoo]

Originally Posted by dinoiii

Epithos + Prop are both have AI effects, but Epithos in particular have significant binding to the androgen receptor. Its not necessarily a clean fit here in either case. I am leaning on suggesting Epithos to not really fit at all because of it already being 5-alpha reduced which is actually another thing that should be considered here.

I am unsure if you are asking if Phera = DHEA, but if that is the case...then my answer is NO.

Have you put a copy of that sticky here at LB???


Have some reps for your efforts!



Aside: I am preparing a very structurally oriented article series on this as we speak though as well. This is the first-ever that I have done for obvious reasons. It is something that likely will not make mainstream article press, but more left in reserve for the CU (unsure about this though - the articles fall where they may...most often controversial stuff will fall in the CU though).

D_

Ok, series of questions:
1- What is the parent compound of Phera?
2- What is the parent compound of Propadrol?
3- What is the parent compound of the Epithio group?

I will put my Newbs Guide to PHs on leanbulk. Thanks for the rep points.

[dinoiii]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

1- What is the parent compound of Phera?

The Phera molecule IS the "parent" as I believe you are defining it. Its a 17a-methylated progestin that is one of those true "Designers" that are hanging around. It was literally scarfed out of VIDA and that alone based on its Androgenic ratio because people were assured to make gains (albeit, not necessarily muscular).

2- What is the parent compound of Propadrol?

Prop is too one of those dual molecules. 3-OHAT (but its more of a salt of this compound rather than the exact...this is hard to explain in text without showing it) + a progestin (much of the Max LMG suggestion, but not quite - again, we'll do structural offering soon).


* What you are struggling with appears to be the progestins and this is not uncommon. Many things have been said about these things on various forums in err.

3- What is the parent compound of the Epithio group?

drop the methyl and find the "parent"




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[Voodoo]

Originally Posted by dinoiii

The Phera molecule IS the "parent" as I believe you are defining it. Its a 17a-methylated progestin that is one of those true "Designers" that are hanging around. It was literally scarfed out of VIDA and that alone based on its Androgenic ratio because people were assured to make gains (albeit, not necessarily muscular).
Prop is too one of those dual molecules. 3-OHAT (but its more of a salt of this compound rather than the exact...this is hard to explain in text without showing it) + a progestin (much of the Max LMG suggestion, but not quite - again, we'll do structural offering soon).
* What you are struggling with appears to be the progestins and this is not uncommon. Many things have been said about these things on various forums in err.
drop the methyl and find the "parent"
D_

thanks for the info sir!

[Androgenic]

"Drop the methyl and do the ethyl!" Paid for by companies of products that don't work, upset with products that do. Thank you.

[transXisomer]

Originally Posted by Androgenic

"Drop the methyl and do the ethyl!" Paid for by companies of products that don't work, upset with products that do. Thank you.

Deca > Ethyl