Millenium Sports Technologies (MST) new Vit/Mineral Formulas

lionelxxl · 09-15-2007, 06:54 PM

Just thought i'd share them here.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/mille...ml#post1002450
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/mille...ml#post1002692

D, i know "ALL MULTI VITAMINS/MINERALS SUCK@!" lol, but any thoughts on the above 2?

**RisingAgainst** · 09-15-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lionelxxl

Just thought i'd share them here.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/mille...ml#post1002450
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/mille...ml#post1002692

D, i know "ALL MULTI VITAMINS/MINERALS SUCK@!" lol, but any thoughts on the above 2?

Did they release the info yet bro??? I'm willing to bet matt will give CMZ a run for it's money.. and this multi will be looked over very concisely before I consider it's usage.

**RisingAgainst** · 09-15-2007, 08:00 PM

I went and saw the new writeups/faqs.. I have to admit, it's impressive that he spent that much effort on those... my worry is pricing.. we'll see.

**dinoiii** · 09-15-2007, 08:22 PM

Alright, so we'll play a little game...

I have reviewed these formulas and while improvements in regard to the current crop of MVIs on the market, they fail to earn my essential embrace for multiple reasons.

In review, I have seen 7 things I don't care for in ZMK and 6 things I don't care for MVP 365. Its the nature of the beast and why my mantra is essentially maintained. But - so I am seen as fair...and I really am, I am going to turn it over to a competition.

If you could look inside the mind of dinoiii (and not necessarily my unofficial bio on this site) and attempt to guess what I see as an issue, please list as many as you can think of. To the one who guesses the most correct, a prize! You will have EXACTLY 30 days to get your entry in and a winner will be announced in this very thread on Monday, October 15, 2007 at 9:00pm EST. All entries are to be received by 8:00pm EST that day.

REMEMBER: You don't have to get them all right, just whoever can really think of the MOST. Think formulating in the supplement industry IF dinoiii regulated all the companies is as easy as throwing things in a pill and calling it R&D?

D_

**RisingAgainst** · 09-15-2007, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinoiii

Alright, so we'll play a little game...

I have reviewed these formulas and while improvements in regard to the current crop of MVIs on the market, they fail to earn my essential embrace for multiple reasons.

In review, I have seen 7 things I don't care for in ZMK and 6 things I don't care for MVP 365. Its the nature of the beast and why my mantra is essentially maintained. But - so I am seen as fair...and I really am, I am going to turn it over to a competition.

If you could look inside the mind of dinoiii (and not necessarily my unofficial bio on this site) and attempt to guess what I see as an issue, please list as many as you can think of. To the one who guesses the most correct, a prize! You will have EXACTLY 30 days to get your entry in and a winner will be announced in this very thread on Monday, October 15, 2007 at 9:00pm EST. All entries are to be received by 8:00pm EST that day.

REMEMBER: You don't have to get them all right, just whoever can really think of the MOST. Think formulating in the supplement industry IF dinoiii regulated all the companies is as easy as throwing things in a pill and calling it R&D?

D_

Although the things I'm about to type are what you don't care for (or what I feel you don't care for, I don't know for sure if I share the same sentiments on them, I kind of like a few abstracts.. but more on that later eh?)

ZMK:

1) Vegetable Sterols
2) Vanadium
3) Intermediate style chelates
4) 4mgs of 72 trace minerals
5) Selenium Dosage (inclusion for that matter)
6) Boron dosage
7) Kreb's intermediates? (not sure here, but the inclusion here stifles me a bit)

MVP-365:

1) Vitamin C forms
2) Calcium
3) Krebs Inter's again?
4) MVP prop. blen
5) 2mgs of coq10?
6) Niacin

Those are my current guesses for you D.

**RisingAgainst** · 09-15-2007, 08:52 PM

Also, I'm sure if I actually applied myself a bit, there's a bit more I could have dug up... but hey.

lionelxxl · 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinoiii

Alright, so we'll play a little game...

I have reviewed these formulas and while improvements in regard to the current crop of MVIs on the market, they fail to earn my essential embrace for multiple reasons.

In review, I have seen 7 things I don't care for in ZMK and 6 things I don't care for MVP 365. Its the nature of the beast and why my mantra is essentially maintained. But - so I am seen as fair...and I really am, I am going to turn it over to a competition.

If you could look inside the mind of dinoiii (and not necessarily my unofficial bio on this site) and attempt to guess what I see as an issue, please list as many as you can think of. To the one who guesses the most correct, a prize! You will have EXACTLY 30 days to get your entry in and a winner will be announced in this very thread on Monday, October 15, 2007 at 9:00pm EST. All entries are to be received by 8:00pm EST that day.

REMEMBER: You don't have to get them all right, just whoever can really think of the MOST. Think formulating in the supplement industry IF dinoiii regulated all the companies is as easy as throwing things in a pill and calling it R&D?

D_

Let me take a crack at this

MVP (Spot the 6!)
- Vitamin D (exclusion of it for the majority)
- Vitamin E (MIXED tocopherols as main, if not only, source)
- Magnesium (Chelated instead of ascorbate)
- Vitamin K (exclusion of it for the majority)
- Magnesium and Calcium in the same formula (absorption of either or)
- Herbal extacts (extreme underdosed)
- Niacin

ZMK (Spot the 7!)
- Naturally occurring 72 Trace Mineral Blend (Exclusion of it)
- Selenium (Too high. Should be 200mg COMBINED with natural food sources)
- Copper & Zinc in the same formula (absorption of either or)
- Vanadium (exclusion of it for the majority)
- chelated form (e.g bisglycinate/amino acid chelation vs krebs cycle CFMSA chelation)
- tablet form (vs capsule)

That's all i have.. can't think of anymore with my limited knowledge.. hopefully i put in a good try (entry)! Either way, i've learnt a few new things looking at such products with a more cynical/observational view. Thanks D for this initiative.

**RisingAgainst** · 09-15-2007, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lionelxxl

Let me take a crack at this

MVP (Spot the 6!)
- Vitamin D (exclusion of it for the majority)
- Vitamin E (MIXED tocopherols as main, if not only, source)
- Magnesium (Chelated instead of ascorbate)
- Vitamin K (exclusion of it for the majority)
- Magnesium and Calcium in the same formula (absorption of either or)
- Herbal extacts (extreme underdosed)
- Niacin
- tablet form (vs capsule)

ZMK (Spot the 7!)
- Naturally occurring 72 Trace Mineral Blend (Exclusion of it)
- Selenium (Too high. Should be 200mg COMBINED with natural food sources)
- Copper & Zinc in the same formula (absorption of either or)
- Vanadium (exclusion of it for the majority)
- chelated form (e.g bisglycinate/amino acid chelation vs krebs cycle CFMSA chelation)
- tablet form (vs capsule)

That's all i have.. can't think of anymore with my limited knowledge.. hopefully i put in a good try (entry)! Either way, i've learnt a few new things looking at such products with a more cynical/observational view. Thanks D for this initiative.

I like your guesses... thing is, ZMK is in capsule form.

lionelxxl · 09-16-2007, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RisingAgainst

I like your guesses... thing is, ZMK is in capsule form.

yeah.. MVP actually. ZMK's mini tabs. Nice spot bruh!

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