Free Form Aminos, Dieting, and the workout

[B-natural]

The title kind of sums things up....

Okay, so, when dieting, we'll use a contest diet as a reference and I believe some of this info may be in the CU (ed. 3-4).

I have read that when under severe dieting Amino Acids come into play. The free form amino acids are supposed to be more readily available than the ones in whey protein. My question is it easier for the body to absorb the free form amino's, amino's from protein, or breakdown the muscles to get the amino acids from the muscle?

From the reading, it says that even in whey form, the body takes to long to breakdown the whey and your muscles will end up breaking down because of this. Whereas the free form are more readily available and are easier to be utilized. So would it be a good idea to incorporate an AA drink during the workout at the 45min mark or go with plain whey, or is muscle breakdown pretty much inevitable?

[dinoiii]

Originally Posted by B-natural

The free form amino acids are supposed to be more readily available than the ones in whey protein. My question is it easier for the body to absorb the free form amino's, amino's from protein, or breakdown the muscles to get the amino acids from the muscle?

Actually the peptide bond is what makes those IN PROTEINS superior from free form. This is the joy of human metabolism...peptidases (enzymes designed to cleave peptide bonds within proteins AT A PARTICULAR POINT IN THEIR GI TRANSIT) exist for a reason. I could much more complex than this in my answer, but the general gist is something you should understand.

I am unsure of what "reading" you reference, but make certain that the author of such work does NOT have vested interest in a particular supplement...this is NOT always clear cut and could be a significant challenge to discern.

And yes, CU - Issue 3/4 DOES talk about some amino work.

From the reading, it says that even in whey form, the body takes to long to breakdown the whey and your muscles will end up breaking down because of this. Whereas the free form are more readily available and are easier to be utilized. So would it be a good idea to incorporate an AA drink during the workout at the 45min mark or go with plain whey, or is muscle breakdown pretty much inevitable?

I would hope that muscle breakdown is NOT only inevitable, BUT also imperative. You break muscle down so it can build back up, no?

My recommendations are as follows...

IF you know your workout will extend BEYOND 60 minutes, then some form of BCAA, EAA, amino cocktail may certainly hold merit.

IF you will be working out for 60 minutes OR LESS -AND- consuming a whey shake (isolate and/or hydrosylate) in the immediate aftermath, then any aminos are likely inconsequential to your efforts.



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[B-natural]

Thanx for the info D. Makes quite a bit of sense, even though you didn't go completely into the science of it.