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Old 05-16-2008, 04:06 PM   #41
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i have a mild gyno due to puberty also i have noticed it is heredetary gyno like genetics from my fathers side. also i'm currently at 19% bf and are 225lbs. at the height of 5'6". but i dont want something that will aggrevate it.
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i have a mild gyno due to puberty also i have noticed it is heredetary gyno like genetics from my fathers side. also i'm currently at 19% bf and are 225lbs. at the height of 5'6". but i dont want something that will aggrevate it.
Then you will want to avoid aromatizing PHs like P-plex. If you dont want to avoid them I suggest you keep topical formestane or a SERM like Nolvadex on hand when you run the cycles.

To be safe go for H-Drol, Epidrol, Tren products as they dont aromatize
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Trenadrol is a projestin though ...and ive heard a few stories . Like Usf says - its probably best to stay clear
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Then you will want to avoid aromatizing PHs like P-plex. If you dont want to avoid them I suggest you keep topical formestane or a SERM like Nolvadex on hand when you run the cycles.

To be safe go for H-Drol, Epidrol, Tren products as they dont aromatize
Madol's chemical structure is not allowed to aromatize USF.
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Madol's chemical structure is not allowed to aromatize USF.
Right but somehow it converts, although not on the aromatase pathway
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Right but somehow it converts, although not on the aromatase pathway
non 5a-reduced androgens->aromatase->estrogens. There's no other known pathway. If you're thinking about gyno then could be prolactin-mediated,about bloat well almost every androgen let you hold sodium and extracellular water,some phera clones are also contamined with something else. Desoxymethyltestosterone does not lead to enhanced E levels.
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so what ph's could i use for bulking since halo, epi, and trena are more for lean muscle. could i maybe try some bold, trenadrol, or 3ad from ax
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bulk with a dry agent.It's all about diet.
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i keep learning more and more everyday. thanks. are you telling me that in order for me to grow i can do mild cycles like of halo, epi, trena, bold and propadrol and still gains in mass from them not as much as i would with wet compounds that have more harsh sides.
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i keep learning more and more everyday. thanks. are you telling me that in order for me to grow i can do mild cycles like of halo, epi, trena, bold and propadrol and still gains in mass from them not as much as i would with wet compounds that have more harsh sides.
more or less....yes. Gains will be also more keepable during and after pct. halo and epi are the best of the above ones.
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