http://www.leanbulk.com/forum Lean Bulk is a new fitness discussion group that offers fitness supplement reviews, ideas about post cycle therapy, and the latest exercise science programs. Check out our fitness supplement store for the most powerful legal supplements on the market! en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:24:59 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/images/leanbulk/misc/rss.jpg http://www.leanbulk.com/forum http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9552-planning-my-first-ph-cycle-cel-h-drol-take-look-critique.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:21:06 GMT I am planning on starting my first PH cylce right after the start of the new year (Jan 2010). I have been doing a lot of research since early summer... I am planning on starting my first PH cylce right after the start of the new year (Jan 2010). I have been doing a lot of research since early summer and have come to the conclusion to start with CEL H-drol to see how my body reacts to a PH- since this is my first. However, I also have Finaflex 550-AD (sdrol/tren) and Finaflex Ripped (bold/tren) - I stocked up before the begining of this ban. I DO NOT plan on using the 550-AD for a long time, if ever. I just bought it it case I can never get it again. I realize this is one of the most harsh PHs and you really, really need to know what you are doing and how your body reacts before you consider this. Does this theory go for the Finaflex Ripped (bold/tren) as well? Is the Hdrol a better choice to start on then the Finaflex Ripped? Below is my intended cycle.

Stats: age-29 6'2 210Lbs 10 -11BF%.. looking for a recomp - get to 215 or alittle plus but decrease the body fat closer to 8%

I was a college athlete and have lifted and a pretty damn clean diet since college. I was a 400/800 runner coming in around 170. So I have made some very sucessful lean gains and have pretty much plateaued. From running I am an extreme hardgainer. I have an definite type A personality which has boiled over to my workouts and diet.

Pre-load for 10 days - Hawthorne Berry 500mg/day or Milk Thistle 300mg/day

Cycle -
CEL Hdrol 50/50/75/75/75
CEL Cycle Assist 8/8/8/8/8
Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid)
Fish Oil
Multi's
Taurine ( if necessary)

PCT -
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Lean Extreme 0/2/3/3
CL BlueUp 2/2/2/2
Vitamin b5
Fish Oil
Multi

Would anyone suggest opting for the Finaflex Ripped? or just stick with Hdrol for my first PH? If I went with Finaflex Ripped I would order FinaFlex PCT Revolution to take with cycle and PCT, I would up my Nolvadex to 40/40/20/10.

PLeasae critique. I have a while before I plan on starting a cycle - so any suggestions are very welcomed. If need be, I will push my cycle plans back even further. ]]> Prohormones ACwingfoot http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9552-planning-my-first-ph-cycle-cel-h-drol-take-look-critique.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/personal-supplement-logs/9551-p-plex-h-drol-bridge-cycle.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:33:59 GMT So I'm going to log my results for this cycle. I'm not going to update it daily, but I will update weekly. My updates will consist of any sides, weight, and amounts lifted on compound movements, ie., bench, lat pull downs, shoulder press and squat. I obviously will be doing additional exercises, but these are the big ones ppl would probably be interested in.

I am staring tomorrow.

Current stats:

32 y/o
5'11"
245 lbs. (as of this morning)
Not sure of bf%, but I have a 36" waist if that's any indication (in other words its not a fat 245) :)

Lifting schedule:

Sat: Chest
Mon: Legs
Tues: Shoulders/Tris
Thurs: Back/Bis

For cardio, I take my dog for a walk/jog 4-5 mornings a week.

Not going to list my entire diet, but it will consist of about 3K cals, 350 g protein, 300g carbs and 45g fats. Going to keep it clean, whey shakes, eggs, high fiber carbs. Diet is subject to change based on results and hunger.

How I'll bridge:

PPlex 20/20/30/30
HDrol 00/00/00/50/75/100/50

Support supps: I take a lot of herbs and vitamins anyway so to that I'll be adding Cycle Assist and extra Milk Thistle. I've already pre-loaded with Cycle Assist and hawthorne for two weeks. Depending on shut down, I may take trib during cycle.

PCT:

PCT Assist;
Novadex XT;
Liver Care;
Trib;
Supress C - transdermal (maybe if needed)
Extra Saw Palmetto.

Current lifts for compound moves:

Flat Bench: 365x3
Flat Bench DB: 145lb DB's x3

Lat pull downs: 240x6

DB Shoulder Press: 100lb DB's x6

Squat: 455x4

I'll be back in a week or so to let you know how first week went. :rockon: ]]> Personal Supplement Logs Broncos77 http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/personal-supplement-logs/9551-p-plex-h-drol-bridge-cycle.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/personal-supplement-logs/9550-h-drol-cut-recomp-6-weeks-75mg-madness.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:56:51 GMT 11/16 H-Drol Cut/Recomp 6 weeks of madness!! First off, a little bit of stats about me. I have been lifting natural, with the exception of... 11/16

H-Drol Cut/Recomp 6 weeks of madness!!
First off, a little bit of stats about me. I have been lifting natural, with the exception of creatine and a few fat burners, for about 2 years now. Im 5"9, and just coming off of a cut. I am right now, at 172lbs. I will be running this cycle as a cut/recomp and strength increase. I will be eating extremely clean, taking in about 2400 calories daily, and about 200-225 grams of protein; with a medium amount of carbs. I will be cycling off of creatine, and only taking these other supps:

CL Orange Triad
CL White Flood
ON 100% Whey
ON 100% Casein
ON Fish Oil Tabs
Taurine if needed
Horny Goat Weed if needed

I will be pre-loading the cycle for a week with CEL Cycle Assist at 8 a day, 4 pre-breakfast, and 4 pre-dinner; all on empty stomach. I will then begin my cycle as follows:


Cycle:
CEL H-Drol 50/75/75/75/75/75
CEL Cycle Assist: 8/8/8/8/8/8

I will be dosing these pre-breakfast/workout, and pre-dinner. I will be taking 1 25mg early, then 1 25mg late at the 50mg dose. Then with the 75mg dose, I will be taking 2 25mg's early, and 1 25 mg late.

PCT:
I-Force Reversitol 3/2/2/1
Bioforge 4/4/4/4/4/4
Lean Xtreme 0/0/3/3/3/3
CEL PCT Assist 4/4/4/4/4/4
CL GreenMAG 5g a day

Workout Routine will look like this, and I will update daily:

Monday:

Chest:
Flat DB Bench
Flat BB Bench
Chest Fly Machine
Incline BB Bench
Chest Dips

Abs:
Sit-ups
Reverse Sit-ups
Weighted Sit-up Machine
Weighted Rotating Sit-up Machine
Leg Raises

Tuesday: Cardio

Treadmill
Elliptical
Bicycle

Wednesday: Back and Abs

Back:
Seated Cable Row Machine
Rear Lat Pull Down Machine
Wide Grip Pull-ups
One Arm DB Row
Front Lat Pull Down Machine
Incline Cable Row Machine

Abs:
Sit-ups
Reverse Sit-ups
Weighted Sit-up Machine
Weighted Rotating Sit-up Machine
Leg Raises

Thursday: Biceps, Triceps, and Forearms

Biceps:
Standing DB Curls:
Standing EZ Bar Curls:
Sitting Inside of Leg DB Curls:
Preacher EZ Bar Curls:
Cable Curls:

Triceps:
Skull-crushers:
Tricep Cable Pull Down:
Seated Overhead Tricep Extension Machine

Forearms:
Reverse Cable Curls:
Rope Twist:

Friday: Shoulders, Traps, Legs, and Abs

Shoulders, and Traps:
Shoulder DB Shrugs:
Seated DB Shoulder Press:
Standing DB Front Raises:
Standing DB Side Raises:
Standing Bent Over DB Side Raises:
Seated BB Shoulder Press:

Legs:
Squats:

Abs:
Sit-ups
Reverse Sit-ups
Weighted Sit-up Machine
Weighted Rotating Sit-up Machine
Leg Raises

My cutting/recomp diet will consist of:

6am Pre WO:
White Flood
7:30am Post WO:
Large bowl of oatmeal with fruit, 2 scoops whey protein shake, 1 fish oil
10:00am:
2 stalks celery, 1 whole wheat bagel, 2 tbs all natural peanut butter
12:00pm:
1/2 cup whole grain rice with 2 strips of chicken, 1 piece of broccoli, 1 whole wheat bagel
3:00pm:
1/2 cup whole grain rice with 2 strips of chicken, 1 piece of broccoli, 1 whole wheat bagel
5:45pm:
2 scoops whey shake, 2 stalks celery, 1 whole wheat bagel, 2 tbs almond butter, 1 fish oil, 1 whole wheat bagel
7:30pm: Snack:
10-20 whole grain crackers
9:00pm:
2 scoops casein shake

Which one average totals out to estimated:

Daily:

Calories:
2400
Fat:
49
Carbohydrates:
241
Protein:
222

I will be pre-loading cycle assist total for a week. ]]> Personal Supplement Logs Guy187 http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/personal-supplement-logs/9550-h-drol-cut-recomp-6-weeks-75mg-madness.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/lean-bulk-store/9549-tfsupplements-shipping.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:27:02 GMT I placed my order for Reversitol and T-Bol on 11/15,I've haven't received my product yet..I've attempted to contact TFsups via e-mail,no luck.. USPS tracking has not updated the status of my shipping in 4 days.. Can a rep help me out? ]]> Lean Bulk Store neilius29 http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/lean-bulk-store/9549-tfsupplements-shipping.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/anabolic-addiction/9548-mass-addiction-dose-timing.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:49:35 GMT I read on some logs that the "Massive saturation blend" in Mass Addiction was affecting the absorption of other supps (ie. getting people wired on a normal dose of caffeine). That's a good sign that it's working and I'm impressed, but how should I time my dose in relation to taking a pre-workout supp with stimulants?

On non-training days, I take one at 3PM. On training days I'll be using a pre-workout about 4ish. Can I still take the MA at 3? Will that be enough time do you think? (I've been stim-free for about a month or so now so I'm already prepared to be a little fired up anyway. I'd rather not be a basketcase.)

I can mess with the timing myself, of course, I'm just looking for a ballpark estimate to start with.

Thanks!

(I posted this over on AA.net too, but that place is Spam-f*cking-tastic. Figured I'd get an answer faster here.) ]]> Anabolic Addiction TheStoic http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/anabolic-addiction/9548-mass-addiction-dose-timing.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/trade-sell/9547-primaforce-havoc.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:31:32 GMT $36.50 Shipped USPS Priority with Tracking. Paypal only. Limited quantity for now. $36.50 Shipped USPS Priority with Tracking. Paypal only.

Limited quantity for now. ]]> Trade/Sell Kernkraft http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/trade-sell/9547-primaforce-havoc.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/lean-bulk-store/9546-tfsupplements-shipping-problem.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:49:20 GMT Any guys. I placed my first order with TFSupplements last Wednesday, November 11th, and I have not received it yet. I cannot even track it and more... Any guys. I placed my first order with TFSupplements last Wednesday, November 11th, and I have not received it yet. I cannot even track it and more than a week went by so I have been trying to contact them. I wrote and called TFSupplements numberous times but no one writes back or answers the telephone. Can anyone help me? Thank you. ]]> Lean Bulk Store dmatz http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/lean-bulk-store/9546-tfsupplements-shipping-problem.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/ask-dr-houser/9545-how-use-stack.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:32:28 GMT Hello, I would like to know how to use the stack by competetive edge labs. Hello, I would like to know how to use the stack by competetive edge labs. ]]> Ask Dr. Houser luisp http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/ask-dr-houser/9545-how-use-stack.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/aas/9544-another-steroid-abscess-video.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:37:41 GMT YouTube - UGL = underground labs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5ecfqe3pMw) look real bad YouTube - UGL = underground labs

look real bad ]]> AAS nomoresteroids http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/aas/9544-another-steroid-abscess-video.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/lean-bulk-store/9543-tf-supplements-customer-service.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:40:19 GMT Okay, I sent an email requesting to return some product that the quality is questionable on. It has been over 24 hours and no response yet. ... Okay, I sent an email requesting to return some product that the quality is questionable on.

It has been over 24 hours and no response yet.

They can nab my money in less than an hour for a purchase, but i cant get a response from customer service in a day.

I never understood this. I certainly hope this c-note of product doesn't end the great relationship I had with the TF in the past.

Putting up the SOS here first. ]]> Lean Bulk Store Kristofer68ss http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/lean-bulk-store/9543-tf-supplements-customer-service.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/trade-sell/9542-protein-m1-4add.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:19:27 GMT I have 2.5 lbs XLL whey protein blend by myogenix. It expires in 2011.
I'm going to ship it in a plastic container like allthewhey does. I also have three caps missing of CEL M1,4ADD, just bought it, expires 2012.

I'll try to take pictures tonight, but just PM with $ offer including shipping and your state.

Thanks. ]]> Trade/Sell hullcrush http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/trade-sell/9542-protein-m1-4add.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/muscle-pharm/9541-musclepharm-demos-vitamin-shoppes.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:50:55 GMT Starting in December, Muscle Pharm will be running demos in the following Vitamin Shoppes!! If there is one near your area, grab some friends and go... Starting in December, Muscle Pharm will be running demos in the following Vitamin Shoppes!! If there is one near your area, grab some friends and go check 'em out! Free samples and T-shirts while they last!

3929 S Bristol St. Santa Ana, CA - 12/01/2009 @ 11:30am-3pm

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-----MusclePharm----- ]]> Muscle Pharm Sonny http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/muscle-pharm/9541-musclepharm-demos-vitamin-shoppes.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/muscle-pharm/9540-recon-write-up-faq.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:44:24 GMT MusclePharm’s RECON™ MUSCLE RECONSTRUCTION MATRIX REFUEL – REPLENISH - REBUILD “YOU LAY THE FOUNDATION IN THE GYM… RECONSTRUCTION OCCURS... MusclePharm’s
RECON™

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RECONSTRUCTION OCCURS ONCE YOU LEAVE.”

Maximizes Post-Workout Growth and Repair
Optimizes the Post-Workout “Anabolic Window”
Refuels Muscle Energy stores
Rebuilds Muscle Tissue
Replenishes Vital Nutrients
Boosts Immune and Recovery Mechanisms



PRODUCT INFORMATION

I. WHAT IS RECON™?

RECON™ is a unique, high-performance POST-WORKOUT REFUEL, REPLENISH, REBUILDING formula. RECON™ was designed to maximize the most important phase of the athlete’s total training program – the post-workout phase, what those in our game call the “anabolic window”. RECON was designed to provide hard training athletes with everything necessary to nourish recovery and growth from all angles. Every facet of reconstruction nutrition is accounted for in this, the most comprehensive recovery formulation. There is nothing like Muscle Pharm’s RECON™.

The brutal truth is, the harder you push your body, the better your results will be, given the proper tools to fuel recovery and growth. Your training program is only as good as your post-workout protocol. RECON™ Reconstruction Matrix leaves no stone unturned in the name of recovery and growth.

RECON™ allows hard working athletes to push harder, and recover quicker from the rigors of high-intensity training by supporting the body’s internal environment.



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RECON™ combines 7 natural Matrices specifically formulated to fuel the body’s muscle-building, repair and recovery systems to maximize post-workout growth and repair and optimize the “anabolic window”. RECON™ is hyper-loaded with glycogen-replenishing, muscle-loading specific carbohydrates (Carb-Max blend), stress hormone regulators and cellular detoxifiers to prevent catabolism and promote cellular health, and immuno-modulators to maximize health and recovery. RECON™ also target key anabolic and recovery pathways within the body to support muscle growth, fuel recovery and maximize the body’s adaptive response to hard training.

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·RECOVER Matrix:
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·REBUILD Matrix (Anabolic Primer):
·Research has proven time and time again Essential and Branched Chain amino acids to be critical components of the muscle building process. Especially in immediate post-training “window of growth”, BCAAs and EAAs are critical components of muscle repair and rebuilding. RECON™ contains 6 grams of EAA’s and 6 grams of BCAAs

·REFUEL Matrix (Muscle Extender):
·Beta Alanine and Citruline Malate have been shown to help replenish cellular energy, to fuel ongoing muscular contractions for harder, more intense training sessions. RECON™ REFUEL Matrix will facilitate cellular energy replenishment and prepare the muscle cells for the next training session.

·REGENERATE Matrix (Muscle Toxin Remover):
·RECON™ is hyper-loaded with key herbal extracts and phytochemicals specifically included for their role in recovery, regeneration and rebuilding. The REGENERATE Matrix also contains several cellular detoxifiers, free-radical and cellular pollutant scavengers, specifically designed to remove metabolic waste for improved recovery and cell health.

·RELOAD Matrix (Insulinogenic):
·Insulin is the most anabolic hormone in the body, bar none. RECON™ contains several proven nutrient “drivers”, insulinogenics and insulin mimetics, specifically included to help thrust recovery agents from the bloodstream into the muscle cells. RECON™’s RELOAD Matrix acts as a hyper-loaded nutrient delivery system, formulated to stimulate rapid nutrient uptake for maximal muscle growth and repair.

·RECHARGE Matrix (Anti-Stress-Adaptogen):
·Cortisol and free-radicals are the two primary opponents to cellular health and recovery. RECHARGE Matrix contains several specific compounds included to control cortisol, the stress-response / growth-inhibiting hormone.

·REPLENISHMENT Matrix (Carb-Max™ blend):
·Carb-Max™ blend is a scientifically formulated combination of specific carbohydrate sources, each specifically chosen for its unique energy-yielding properties and recovery enhancement capabilities. The Carb-Max™ blend contains 3 different mono- and polysaccharides, combined to yield rapid, sustained cellular replenishment.


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KEY POINTS of RECON™
What makes RECON™ such critical nutrition for hard-training athletes?

RECON™’s powerful, comprehensive formulation contains active ingredients scientifically proven to address all key components of the post-training recovery process; and most-importantly, RECON™ contains sufficient quantities of all key active agents to make RECON™ the most impactful and one of the most important products for athletes today. There is no other product like RECON™.

RECON™
Maximizes Post-Workout Growth and Repair
Optimizes the Post-Workout “Anabolic Window”
Refuels Muscle Energy stores
Rebuilds Muscle Tissue
Replenishes Vital Nutrients
Boosts Immune and Recovery Mechanisms ]]> Muscle Pharm Sonny http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/muscle-pharm/9540-recon-write-up-faq.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/trade-sell/9539-cheap-phs-trade-sale.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:48:22 GMT $78 takes the lot! -Opened E-stane missing 6 caps $18 -Opened Desoxydrol missing 1 cap $18 -Deca Pro (60 caps, 15mg SD, 15 mg PP, 25 mg... $78 takes the lot!

-Opened E-stane missing 6 caps $18
-Opened Desoxydrol missing 1 cap $18
-Deca Pro (60 caps, 15mg SD, 15 mg PP, 25 mg Promagnon per cap) $35
-Phera-Tren (60 caps, 10mg PP, 35mg Estra4,9) $25

I'd also be interested in trades for protein or SD clones.I'll make a trade that's in your favor ]]> Trade/Sell crzyyoungn http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/trade-sell/9539-cheap-phs-trade-sale.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/trade-sell/9538-unopened-2-x-tren-pct-assist-180-tabs-76-00-shipped.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:44:19 GMT or will trade for equal Ephidrene ...real ephidrene no ship and will pay BS......:rockon: LEAN BULK PRICE FOR PCT ASSIST UNOPENED 120... or will trade for equal Ephidrene ...real ephidrene

no ship and will pay BS......:rockon:

LEAN BULK PRICE FOR PCT ASSIST UNOPENED 120 TABS-39.95
KEEP IN MIND ]]> Trade/Sell philo1025 http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/trade-sell/9538-unopened-2-x-tren-pct-assist-180-tabs-76-00-shipped.html