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http://www.leanbulk.com/forum Discussions related to anabolics/prohormones, cycle planning, and dosing schemes. Information resource only! en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:11:41 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/images/leanbulk/misc/rss.jpg http://www.leanbulk.com/forum http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9552-planning-my-first-ph-cycle-cel-h-drol-take-look-critique.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:21:06 GMT I am planning on starting my first PH cylce right after the start of the new year (Jan 2010). I have been doing a lot of research since early summer... I am planning on starting my first PH cylce right after the start of the new year (Jan 2010). I have been doing a lot of research since early summer and have come to the conclusion to start with CEL H-drol to see how my body reacts to a PH- since this is my first. However, I also have Finaflex 550-AD (sdrol/tren) and Finaflex Ripped (bold/tren) - I stocked up before the begining of this ban. I DO NOT plan on using the 550-AD for a long time, if ever. I just bought it it case I can never get it again. I realize this is one of the most harsh PHs and you really, really need to know what you are doing and how your body reacts before you consider this. Does this theory go for the Finaflex Ripped (bold/tren) as well? Is the Hdrol a better choice to start on then the Finaflex Ripped? Below is my intended cycle.

Stats: age-29 6'2 210Lbs 10 -11BF%.. looking for a recomp - get to 215 or alittle plus but decrease the body fat closer to 8%

I was a college athlete and have lifted and a pretty damn clean diet since college. I was a 400/800 runner coming in around 170. So I have made some very sucessful lean gains and have pretty much plateaued. From running I am an extreme hardgainer. I have an definite type A personality which has boiled over to my workouts and diet.

Pre-load for 10 days - Hawthorne Berry 500mg/day or Milk Thistle 300mg/day

Cycle -
CEL Hdrol 50/50/75/75/75
CEL Cycle Assist 8/8/8/8/8
Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid)
Fish Oil
Multi's
Taurine ( if necessary)

PCT -
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Lean Extreme 0/2/3/3
CL BlueUp 2/2/2/2
Vitamin b5
Fish Oil
Multi

Would anyone suggest opting for the Finaflex Ripped? or just stick with Hdrol for my first PH? If I went with Finaflex Ripped I would order FinaFlex PCT Revolution to take with cycle and PCT, I would up my Nolvadex to 40/40/20/10.

PLeasae critique. I have a while before I plan on starting a cycle - so any suggestions are very welcomed. If need be, I will push my cycle plans back even further. ]]> Prohormones ACwingfoot http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9552-planning-my-first-ph-cycle-cel-h-drol-take-look-critique.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9536-ids-sports-conducts-voluntary-nationwide-recall.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:26:36 GMT On Bromodrol, Dual Action Grow Tabs, Grow Tabs, Mass Tabs, Ripped Tabs TR. Has anyone else hard about this & what does that mean? I just saw it on another board & the article is of course more specific along with UPC & Lot #'s. Will those products be worth more pretty soon... :biggrin: ]]> Prohormones 1fast01 http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9536-ids-sports-conducts-voluntary-nationwide-recall.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9535-serious-help-needed.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:51:37 GMT About 3 weeks ago I first noticed this...might be because I was leg pressing 565...my right testicle has like a bump the size of a marble and if you... About 3 weeks ago I first noticed this...might be because I was leg pressing 565...my right testicle has like a bump the size of a marble and if you apply slight pressure it feels like you are squeezing a nut or got kicked in the balls. I have been doing alot of legwork and idk if its from that or since my legs are bigger maybe they are crushing my balls or something haha. Just worried about the bump and have to go to the Dr., but I wasnt sure if any of you have ever encountered something like it? Its not necessarily ON my nut, but more so about 2 cm above it, connected to the epididymis.

Hope I shouldnt be REALLY concerned, maybe its a weight lifting issue...just hope its not testicular cancer at 23 years of age... ]]> Prohormones blackthorns45 http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9535-serious-help-needed.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9526-female-hdrol.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:23:21 GMT i know a female who wants to try light prohormone is hdrol advisable or what do you suggest i know a female who wants to try light prohormone is hdrol advisable or what do you suggest ]]> Prohormones muscle geek http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9526-female-hdrol.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9514-cycle-qs-m-drol.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:09:30 GMT I just bought M-drol and am not taking it yet, im going in the military and might be leaving in january, Would i be able to cut the cycle short to... I just bought M-drol and am not taking it yet, im going in the military and might be leaving in january, Would i be able to cut the cycle short to like 2.5 to 3 weeks so i can PCT or should i hold off till after bootcamp?
Also, why is M-drol not a good ph for a first time user? ]]> Prohormones hill1775 http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9514-cycle-qs-m-drol.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9513-support-supps-5wk-h-drol-propadrol-cycle.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:25:54 GMT I was trying to determine whether or not INHIBIT-E or SUPPRESS -C or a test booster like BIOFORGE was necessary or even beneficial after a 5-6 wk... I was trying to determine whether or not INHIBIT-E or SUPPRESS -C or a test booster like BIOFORGE was necessary or even beneficial after a 5-6 wk h-drol/ prop cycle. Also what SERM does everyone reccommend: CLOMID, NOLVA, or TOREM.

Thanks for the help ]]> Prohormones jsett2205 http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9513-support-supps-5wk-h-drol-propadrol-cycle.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9512-hgh-replacements.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:50:46 GMT Medicine has researched the area of synthetic HGH to stave off the aging process. Several legal HGH replacement therapies have been introduced in the... Medicine has researched the area of synthetic HGH to stave off the aging process. Several legal HGH replacement therapies have been introduced in the past. However, most of these HGH releasers were expensive. Natural HGH releasers came into existence following the presence of side-effects in some of the preceding HGH replacements. Natural HGH releasers are considered better alternatives. Today, advancement of Medicine has brought natural, non-side-effect HGH replacements, within the reach of common man.

HGH Plus is a leading legal doctor-developed HGH releaser for men and women, applicable over a wide age range. This best-selling anti-aging medicine was developed by Dr. David Orman of Orlando, an Herbal Clinician, and a pioneer in Natural Medicine, Nutrition, and Anti-aging. HGH Plus uses purely natural ingredients of the highest quality, which renders it powerful and safe. This anti-ageing formula has tested positive for safety in more than 18,000 studies and has a safety track record of 10+ years. It is without side-effects and is used by people in over 40 countries. HGH Plus is manufactured in FDA-approved labs, and is available in a liquid form. However, be sure that you buy only authentic HGH Plus. ]]> Prohormones roberld http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9512-hgh-replacements.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9501-p-plex-question.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:35:08 GMT Ive been taking it for a week, well i decided to get off of it right now, do I have to take any PCT or test booster, thanks, only took it for a week. Ive been taking it for a week, well i decided to get off of it right now, do I have to take any PCT or test booster, thanks, only took it for a week. ]]> Prohormones 2aDays http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9501-p-plex-question.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9499-cel-reps-advanced-users-please-help.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:31:32 GMT I am currently going into my last week of the trifecta stack from LG. They send Formadrol with it for PCT . I have a bottle of cycle assist and a... I am currently going into my last week of the trifecta stack from LG. They send Formadrol with it for PCT . I have a bottle of cycle assist and a bottle of PCT assist from CEL. This is stuff I have bought while on deployment in Iraq. We will be redeploying to the states early January. Wondering if it would be alright to run a solo H-drol cycle before I start a PCT from the Trifecta stack. It was only a 4 week cycle without including PCT and truthfully it sucked. I eat clean as anyone and lift like a ****ing animal. I did not see any results other than maybe leaning out a little.

So again would it be alright to jump right into a 3-4 week solo cycle of h-drol? If so how many (mg) do you suggest for the cycle. Should i do 3 or 4 weeks. And how many bottles will I need. If im gonna do this I need to put the order for the H-drol in today. Also could I use the formadrol with the PCT assist after taking the h-drol or is that overkill? PLEASE HELP! Thanks guys!

Also this is my first cycle and I want to do the h-drol cycle before i go home because there is no alcohol here and I have the time to lift hard. ]]> Prohormones recon4th http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9499-cel-reps-advanced-users-please-help.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9490-nac.html Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:05:22 GMT Whats a good dosage for NAC while on cycle for DMT (Phera) or Methasteron (SD)? Whats a good dosage for NAC while on cycle for DMT (Phera) or Methasteron (SD)? ]]> Prohormones Ironhead http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9490-nac.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9485-anyone-try-light-ph-cycle.html Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:56:05 GMT I have considered trying a light PH cycle to break through my current plateau. I have been lifting for about 10 years, pretty consistent, not... I have considered trying a light PH cycle to break through my current plateau. I have been lifting for about 10 years, pretty consistent, not hardcore though. I also want to do a light PH cycle to see how my body reacts to them instead of jumping in full force. I had a blood test done about 2 months ago and my physician, an ex amature bodybuilder, said I was in perfect health, internally. She said I dont really need her for a long time! haha
anyways, my current stats are 6ft, 30 years old, 212 lbs and about a 13-14% bodyfat. The way I was considering taking a PH is as follows:
pre load 1 week of cycle assist and continue taking it through the cycle
E Stane 20/20/20/20
Take additional Omega 3-6-9 capsules through cycle and PCT as well as joint fuel
bump calories about 300 more per day, usually consume about 2500 calories per day and usually get in 250-275 grams of protein
PCT
nolvadex 20/20/10/10 (i do currently have on hand)
reversitol as recommended on the label
creatine (havent figured out which one)

Goal is to add some lean muscle, increase strength and hopefully not get fat!

I know most people say, "20mg a day of E-Stane (or epistane, havoc) is pointless and you wont get anywhere!"
Well, to me, those people have used something so much stronger, so for them, it is pointless! For a newbie, I think it will help.

Any comments would be great! thanks! ]]> Prohormones E90335i http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9485-anyone-try-light-ph-cycle.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9481-assistance-needed-today.html Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:54:13 GMT ASSISTANCE NEEDED!

So my doctor basically justed f'ed up my whole cycle I think but in the long run it might be for the better. I went in today to see him regarding my blood test and he stated that the nurse gave me the incorrect numbers, the actual levels were 5.1 Free Test out of a 31-94 Range and my LH levels were 1 out of a 2-6 range. So in a nutshell I am a woman for the time being. With that being said he wants me to go for blood work again tomorrow morning. This is where I need help!

My doctor is unfamiliar with PH and AAS so he said that even though I am on I should go for blood work and get new readings done. He is then going to meet with me on November 24th to discuss those readings. From there he is going to refer me to an endocrinologist which will most likely be sometime in mid December.

I have been taking Mdrol now for 7 days at 20mg per day. If I stop now do I need to do a PCT or is there no point considering that my LH and free test levels could not be any lower anyways? I was suppose to start PCT on December 5th. Should I just continue with the cycle and do clomid for PCT like I was planning on doing in the first place? I am not going to be seeing the endocrinologist till at least mid December and my that time I will be done my 10 days of Clomid as per HUGE's suggestion. I think my doctor realized how low my levels actually were and may decide to go ahead with regular TEST injections weekly, HCG or possibly a total Hormone Replacement Therapy.

Any advice would be great! Do I keep going or stop immediately and if so what do I do for PCT if anything. If I do PCT that is going to throw off everything also though hence why I thought continuing would be really the same thing. ]]> Prohormones steve_o http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9481-assistance-needed-today.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9455-looking-run-another-bulk-stack-suggestions.html Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:22:18 GMT alrighty guys next cycle coming up in December and I just decied its going to be another bulk cycle... looking for suggestions on stacks you have had... alrighty guys next cycle coming up in December and I just decied its going to be another bulk cycle... looking for suggestions on stacks you have had succsses with... so gimme your stack and story so I can build an elitle ph plan for December 7th! :yes: ]]> Prohormones Rustang http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9455-looking-run-another-bulk-stack-suggestions.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9450-mdrol-x-tren-stack-suggestions.html Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:57:33 GMT hey i was thinking of stacking m-drol and x-tren for a cycle. i will be taking cycle assist a week or two before the start. plus liver care probly... hey i was thinking of stacking m-drol and x-tren for a cycle. i will be taking cycle assist a week or two before the start. plus liver care probly liv. 52 ,throughout as well. For pct i was gonna take a serm (clomid).
Can anyone suggest a good way to dose these for the cycle?
and is there anything else i should take with or after with the pct?

i appreciate any help. ]]> Prohormones vinnie0104 http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9450-mdrol-x-tren-stack-suggestions.html http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9445-zsupps-formasol.html Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:56:40 GMT does anyone have any feedback on the stuff. it uses PP carrier and is 90mg for 2pumps. might have a trade to get some does anyone have any feedback on the stuff. it uses PP carrier and is 90mg for 2pumps. might have a trade to get some ]]> Prohormones littlrook http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/prohormones/9445-zsupps-formasol.html