Tribulus terrestris

[haiz69]

A study on humans with high protodisocin trib would be nice to see.

[NateW]

yeah or just some brands that work.

[NateW]

I was on one a couple summers ago called Musclejack. It had Trib, longjack, and an estrogen blocker. The pills were tiny though so I dont know how it had all that in there but like 4 weeks in I was gettin bigger, leaner, and I was pissed off all the time. I actually got in a car wreck while I was on it cause of my overly aggressive driving, and hooked up with a co-worker at work in the closet. This was not my typical behavior at all. Ive been looking for that stuff again cause it worked so well but its been discontinued and it looks like the company is out of business. I have a feeling it might have been one of those steroid "tainted" test boosters we hear about cause there was no way there was enough trib longjack and stuff in those tiny pills to do all that. I was an idiot though and sometimes dosing over 4 x the recommended serving. so if It was tainted.. haha yeah I was gettin the full effect.

[zpnq]

I might give hypertest a try,

Thanks for all the comments

[dinoiii]

There are at least 2 European studies and 2 in-house trials that are suggestive of an effect on tribulus and test levels. Unfortunately, the one thing that has not been reported is whether or not that increase is at all significant (in other words, the results have been rather vague and not of the highest quality). Fortunately (or unfortunately for those spending their hard-earned $$$ on it), neither have the studies that purport tribulus to have no effect done a real QUALITY study on the extracts (and none with the dose suggested to have max benefit in the studies - 1500mg, which by default gives more of the protodioscin concentration).

So - then...even if the increase in test is significant, what else need be evaluated?

[1] acute or chronic effects on muscle mass?

[2] how long serum test would remain elevated?

[3] distinct range of increases sought after?


* See, unless an individual reaches pharmacologic (or supraphysiologic) levels of test, the increase after taking the herb (even standardized) may not mean a damn thing. For one, none of the trials in any regard have explored confounding variables...like:

- the serum test rise after an intense power workout/weight session


In the mean time, I go against the grain and suggest that if you are to experience a supraphysiologic response - those familiar with my writing are certain that I recommend AM dosing (rather than the before bed protocols developed by the gurus of the world). In the morning, natural test is highest...IF trib is to have any significant effect, it would be while building on this value in my opinion (especially if the elevations is merely acute).

That is all anyone can say we KNOW.


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