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Dinoiii what are ur thoughts on running a 3-4 week cycle of SD/Propadrol? I haven't seen this combo yet and I have thought about it before.

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SD- 20,20,20,30mg
Propadrol-60,60,90,90mg

I am going to pre-load milk thistle and Hawthrone Berries. I am going to run Milk thistle during my cycle and SAMe for PCT.

PCT-
AX original PCT-3,2,2,1,1-
Post Cycle Support
Retain 2- week 3
MassFX- week 3
Vitagro CGL
Incarnate
Purple Wraath plus fish oil, vitamins, Grape seed and green tea extracts(everyday pre, durinng and PCT). Nician.

Its going to be an all out bulk, I am hoping this combo will be great for mass. I put on 10lbs with Prop/Hemadrol.

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Old 12-12-2007, 08:49 PM   #2
 
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I have no issue with the combination proposed, though propodrol and its essential anti-E activity for a compound hypothesized to harbor no estrogenic conversion (SD) could be a bit unnecessary. 60mg of propodrol will likely have minimal to no effect on many people (90-120mg is usually the preferred dose with this compound).

Reliance on a original AX PCT anti-E is a little perplexing. While I think the lab results are encouraging that we have seen on the mATD, I am unsure I would like to think this does anything more than suppress the estrogenic rebound to a latter time and make you prone to what people have dubbed "delayed gyno" though this is a bit of a misnomer.

In any event - you may opt to increase the dose of an AI rather than decrease it. Test conversion to Estrogen (through aromatase) is low at the beginning of the post-cycle era rather than the end of endogenous serum gonadotropins rebound effectively. Still, I don't care for SD and am very hesitant to offer up many thumb's up for this compound.


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I have no issue with the combination proposed, though propodrol and its essential anti-E activity for a compound hypothesized to harbor no estrogenic conversion (SD) could be a bit unnecessary. 60mg of propodrol will likely have minimal to no effect on many people (90-120mg is usually the preferred dose with this compound).

Reliance on a original AX PCT anti-E is a little perplexing. While I think the lab results are encouraging that we have seen on the mATD, I am unsure I would like to think this does anything more than suppress the estrogenic rebound to a latter time and make you prone to what people have dubbed "delayed gyno" though this is a bit of a misnomer.

In any event - you may opt to increase the dose of an AI rather than decrease it. Test conversion to Estrogen (through aromatase) is low at the beginning of the post-cycle era rather than the end of endogenous serum gonadotropins rebound effectively. Still, I don't care for SD and am very hesitant to offer up many thumb's up for this compound.


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After thinking it over I am going to go with Methyl-E/Propadrol for 6 weeks. I have enough Propadrol to run it like this, 60,90,90,90,120,120mg. My doses for M/E will be modest going no higher than 50mg but prob sticking to 40mg.

As far as my PCT I game for changing it up. Maybe swapping out the AX PCT for HDx2/Advanced PCT combo. Ken from AX and a couple of guys seem to have responded very well from that combo after heavy methyl cycles.

Also what do u think about taking both Post Cycle Support and I3C together as part of my PCT?

Post Cycle Support
I3C
Hdx2/Advanced PCT
MassFX
Retain 2

This is his plan using them both.

Week1: 4 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT
Week2: 4 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT
Week3: 3 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT
Week4: 2 caps HyperdrolX2, 3 caps Advanced PCT

Here is another

wk01- aPCT 3 caps/d, HD2X 2 caps/n, Mass FX 3 caps/d, Retain 3 caps/d
wk02- aPCT 6 caps/d, HD2X 4 caps/n, Mass FX 6 caps/d, Retain 3 caps/d
wk03- aPCT 6 caps/d, HD2X 4 caps/n, Mass FX 6 caps/d, Retain 2 caps/d
wk04- HD2X 4 caps/n, HD2X 2(morning dose) Mass FX 6 caps/d, Retain 1 cap/d
wk05- HD2X 4 caps/n, HD2X 2(morning dose) Mass FX 2 caps/d
wk06- HD2X 2 caps/n

So, as far as 6bromo is concerned...

Week1: 175mg 6bromo
Week2: 350mg 6bromo
Week3: 350mg 6bromo
Week4: 300mg 6bromo
Week5: 300mg 6bromo
Week6: 100mg 6bromo

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