01-06-2008, 04:51 PM
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Hypothetical SD PCT
Lets say you were 30 years old, 5' 9" 210 with 13% b/f. You have tried a few other ph/ps years ago with fair results, long before you knew anything about PCT, therefore did not use any.
You have not noticed shut down or negative sides in the past. You even tried a Ch-50 cycle 3 months ago and your blood work came back as good after the cycle as it did before. The Dr. gives you the perfect clean bill of health!
What OTC PCT supplements would you be looking at that might interest you for a 3 week SD cycle? What would be the best pct supplements for you, hypothetically speaking! 
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01-06-2008, 05:00 PM
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Hmmmmm, can I ask what the hypothetical planned dosage of SD would be?
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01-06-2008, 05:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dinoiii
Hmmmmm, can I ask what the hypothetical planned dosage of SD would be?
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10/20/20 unless great gains were scene at the end of week 1 then might hold it to 10/10/20. If nothing after 2 weeks, a 10/20/ might bump up week 3 to 30mg (hypothetically)
Thanks for the fast response and this site is one of the best I have seen!
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01-06-2008, 08:29 PM
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I think the approach offered is very prudent and I commend assessment at week 1's conclusion rather than jumping the dose.
The compound and the respective clones that have popped up have been rather toxic in certain regards. There will actually be a toxicity article in the next issue of the CU referencing tox curves between SD and M1T comparisons.
Nonetheless, I think that the following might be prudent OTC offerings:
[1] Estrogen Support: I3C 400mg-800mg (bodyweight dependent); Vitamin D 800 IU; use of AI-style supplement is dependent upon symptomatology + use of pharmacotherapy should you be employing concurrent medical treatment (but as we are suggesting, I am just putting up OTC supps here)
[2] Test Support: ALCAR/PLC/LCLT/L-Car: 3000-6000mg; Zinc (Orotate, Aspartate): 30mg - remember copper co-supplementation if you are long-term dosing (10-15mg:1mg)
[3] Hepatoprotectant/Mood Stablizer/Joint Supplement: SAMe 600mg x 2 weeks; 400mg x 2 weeks
[4] Cardiovascular: Hawthorn (see suggestions in Supplement Spotlight: Hawthorn article in "Articles" section of my subforum) - remember to begin supplementation 2 weeks prior to cycle if really planning on getting anything out of this product
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The Clinical Underground Official Newsletter (Volume I, Issues I & II now available) ... send "subscribe" email to the address above.
Disclaimer: Despite my being a physician, the information provided in my posts is intended for INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY and to stimulate increased rapport between physician and patient. It is asked that you embark on advice provided solely by your EXAMINING physician.
Please do NOT email, PM for scripts or referral.
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01-06-2008, 09:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dinoiii
I think the approach offered is very prudent and I commend assessment at week 1's conclusion rather than jumping the dose.
The compound and the respective clones that have popped up have been rather toxic in certain regards. There will actually be a toxicity article in the next issue of the CU referencing tox curves between SD and M1T comparisons.
Nonetheless, I think that the following might be prudent OTC offerings:
[1] Estrogen Support: I3C 400mg-800mg (bodyweight dependent); Vitamin D 800 IU; use of AI-style supplement is dependent upon symptomatology + use of pharmacotherapy should you be employing concurrent medical treatment (but as we are suggesting, I am just putting up OTC supps here)
[2] Test Support: ALCAR/PLC/LCLT/L-Car: 3000-6000mg; Zinc (Orotate, Aspartate): 30mg - remember copper co-supplementation if you are long-term dosing (10-15mg:1mg)
[3] Hepatoprotectant/Mood Stablizer/Joint Supplement: SAMe 600mg x 2 weeks; 400mg x 2 weeks
[4] Cardiovascular: Hawthorn (see suggestions in Supplement Spotlight: Hawthorn article in "Articles" section of my subforum) - remember to begin supplementation 2 weeks prior to cycle if really planning on getting anything out of this product
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Thanks for the info. If in understand this correctly, ATD will not be needed, and an AI will only be used if some symptoms occur.
Its amazing how different this pct would be from the general though of needing stuff like AS's PCT, Retain, Rebound xt, Nolvedex xt ect.....
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