01-28-2008, 08:05 AM
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Bold/Halo/E-Form Cycle Critique
Hi guys, Dana, would you mind critiquing the below-mentioned cycle?
Weight/Height/BF: 215/5'11/14%
CYCLE
Weeks 1-8: Bold, 1000mg/day
Weeks 1-6: Halo, 50mg/day
Weeks 7-8: E-Form
PCT
Novedex XT
Reduce XT
ActivaTe Xtreme
SAMe
What i'd like to know is
1. Would running BOLD at 800mg for 10 weeks be better?
2. Halo at 75mg for 6 weeks recommended?
3. Overall thoughts on cycle?
Thank you so much for reading!
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01-28-2008, 08:35 AM
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For your weight, I think you would be fine to up the halo to 75mg/day for the last 2 weeks (you should start seeing the halo working at around week 2). Also you can run the E-Form for the whole 8 weeks if you want. Im running a very similar cycle right now, so PM me if you have any questions
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01-28-2008, 08:40 AM
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75mgs is fine for Halo, its real mild. I assume your running support supps with this cycle. Personally I would stick with your cycle you have outlined, looks solid. Although I cant comment too much on the Bold, I ran it solo for 8 weeks at 800mg/day and didnt really notice anything spectacular. Just my 2 pennies.
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01-28-2008, 08:48 AM
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thanks
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Originally Posted by PUSHINW8
75mgs is fine for Halo, its real mild. I assume your running support supps with this cycle. Personally I would stick with your cycle you have outlined, looks solid. Although I cant comment too much on the Bold, I ran it solo for 8 weeks at 800mg/day and didnt really notice anything spectacular. Just my 2 pennies.
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Thanks for dropping in with a comment pushinw8..
What kinda support supps do you recommend? AFAIK, this cycle is pretty mild and i was considering leaving SAMe and the other liver supps till PCT.
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01-28-2008, 12:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelxxl
Thanks for dropping in with a comment pushinw8..
What kinda support supps do you recommend? AFAIK, this cycle is pretty mild and i was considering leaving SAMe and the other liver supps till PCT.
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Question. Why no E-Form until the last 2 weeks?
By the way, I am doing something almost exactly the same starting the 2nd week of May.
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01-28-2008, 02:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelxxl
Thanks for dropping in with a comment pushinw8..
What kinda support supps do you recommend? AFAIK, this cycle is pretty mild and i was considering leaving SAMe and the other liver supps till PCT.
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I used Anabolic Innovations 'Life Support' on cycle and during PCT, 4 hours after taking the H-Drol. Obviously a multi-vitamin. I took fish oil caps with the H-Drol hoping to increase absorbtion oh the H-Drol PWO. On my days off I took 25mg/am, and 25mg/PM. I had pretty good results, you can find my log in the review section.
If you want to save the SAMe til PCT do to budget constraints that should be ok, but its always better to be on the safe side and take it during your cycle.
As a weak androgen and a non-aromatizer, its probably does not have much liver toxicity, althogh being a 17a methyl the possibility is always there (Patrick Arnold).
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01-28-2008, 02:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by temper35
Question. Why no E-Form until the last 2 weeks?
By the way, I am doing something almost exactly the same starting the 2nd week of May.
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I dont think the Halo and Bold are going to give you estrogen-related issues on cycle. Minimal shutdown is what I have read on a lot of logs and experienced myself with the Halo. Bold is a very weak prohormone IMO, and its very doubtful that you will have probs on cycle. Obviously you would want to take the E-Form if you notice any issues come about, other than that save your $$ and take it 2 weeks before the end of cycle or during PCT.
Just my honest opinion..
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01-30-2008, 10:10 AM
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bump
Hey D, though this may be a simple, fairly straightforward cycle, would just love to see if you have any comments on this.
Much appreciated!
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01-30-2008, 01:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelxxl
What i'd like to know is
1. Would running BOLD at 800mg for 10 weeks be better?
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"Better" is relative.
Are we talking in terms of efficacy? Likely.
Are we talking in terms of side-effect potential? Probably not.
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2. Halo at 75mg for 6 weeks recommended?
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I do NOT make recommendations on PH/PS/AAS use. I will say, however, that people have run Halo with "efficacious success" at that level.
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3. Overall thoughts on cycle?
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The way it is written seems prudent. Your decisions to alter it may change that connotation, but it is not bad the way it is written - makes empirical sense.
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01-30-2008, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmlax22
For your weight, I think you would be fine to up the halo to 75mg/day for the last 2 weeks (you should start seeing the halo working at around week 2). Also you can run the E-Form for the whole 8 weeks if you want. Im running a very similar cycle right now, so PM me if you have any questions
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PUSHINW8
75mgs is fine for Halo, its real mild. I assume your running support supps with this cycle. Personally I would stick with your cycle you have outlined, looks solid. Although I cant comment too much on the Bold, I ran it solo for 8 weeks at 800mg/day and didnt really notice anything spectacular. Just my 2 pennies.
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There you have some recommendations. It is hard to make too many alterations to what you have penned above without really knowing your history of use and/or if you have run either agent as monotherapeutic trial in the past.
Perhaps you have seen my incidence reports of gyno secondary to 1,4AD on DA and/or bb.com? If not, you may opt to search for them - no real direct dose-response relationship though...but it may lend credence to using something like the E-form longer than you have assigned, but that's really all I could say.
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