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Ok, so I know this is one of those, uh, Voo you're an idiot moments but its time to come clean.

3 weeks
M1T @ 20mg

2 weeks
M1T @ 20mg
M5AA @ 40mg

4 weeks
Halo @ 50mg
Prop @ 90mg

4 weeks
1,4ad @ 800mg

pct:
SAMe 400mg
Hawthorne Berry 2.5g
Test Drive (6 pills daily)
Transdermal Formestane - 3 times daily (roughly 100mg applied to chest each time)

Thats it

I did this to again, test the limits. I can always buy hdx2, but I wanted to see what was possible.

while I haven't done blood work, I stopped this a week and a half ago.... I seem to be back to me, I have acne on my back - something I only have when my test is back up where its supposed to be, while not actual evidence of test levels, good sign. Gotta call up the doc, but I think good test levels of 490-500 are in store for me.


And while all this isnt a question, Im posting it here as I know Dana is doing a lot of work with form.
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So that's your total PCT?
No SERM?
Has this worked for you in the past (minus the Form.)?

I ran HDX2/TD Form last PCT, but for this up coming PCT I'll drop HDX2 and use TD Form as AI. That combo killed est. levels and libido.
I like to taper up, then back down, and run for an extra couple weeks beyond normal PCT timeframe.

I think you'll love the AI ability of TD Form, just not sure about it's effectiveness in HPTA recovery.
BTW... Use a blowdryer on your chest after application, and don't wear a silk/rayon shirt afterward.
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To think i got bashed for my prior stack. e-form is very effective for anti-e
and increasing libido,but unsure as far as restoring test levels ina timely manner. u might be wise to include some clomid and get things going at
a faster rate. HEY PM me i know u have trans form on hand and i have a couple of bottles but looking for more b 1fast went up on price.
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I am a bit confused on a whole bunch of things, but I'll start small:

[1] What is it you are trying to accomplish with this cycle (or cycles or whatever this is)?

[2] I certainly do NOT feel the PCT is adequate coverage for a 13-week cycle (if that is what is being conveyed here).

[3] An AI after obvious shutdown (without even knowing your values at the end) is a bit conspicuous in placement.



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I am a bit confused on a whole bunch of things, but I'll start small:

[1] What is it you are trying to accomplish with this cycle (or cycles or whatever this is)?

[2] I certainly do NOT feel the PCT is adequate coverage for a 13-week cycle (if that is what is being conveyed here).

[3] An AI after obvious shutdown (without even knowing your values at the end) is a bit conspicuous in placement.



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1: Goal of cycle - gain lean muscle, and test limits of double methyl/8 week for more or less shits and giggles. Figured I could survive it, and surprise surprise, it wasn't a biggie. Hell the 4 weeks of bold were just kinda tossed on for the fuck of it. I know, I know. I think had I run M5AA @ 60mg and M1T @ 30mg together for a month I would have seen superdrol shutdown like effects - but for what I thought was going to be an insurmountably tough cycle, I didnt see any real sides, other than aggression from the combo I just mentioned.
2: pct may not be adequate, but Im testing the limits of form, and worst case I can always just run a round of hyperdrol/I3C/test booster. Wont know until I run bloodwork what my test levels are, but all the typical signs of recovery are present (yes I know this does not supplement or replace actual blood work)
3: While it may seem ridiculous to say, I didnt see any normal side of shutdown, I know that my test levels were obviously altered, but I didnt see lethargy, etc. Like I said, I will provide results after seeing the doc.
4: oh side note for you dana, without the presence of hyperdrolx2 - I didnt see any of the previous "gyno" we saw on the last cycle. The TD either totally eliminated it, or the lack of bromo or cissus is to blame. Either way, I love my titties.


Got test - already a blowdryer-aholic. Typical pct is transdermal form, hdx2, test booster, SAMe, hawthorne. I just figured I would eliminate 6 bromo and see what happened.

Oh and weight prior to cycle - 224.5
weight ending m5aa/m1t - 230
weight ending halo prop - 239
random flu caught mid cycle - 232
weight ending 1,4ad - 236
weight after pct - 232-234 depending on day.

unfortunately my sister is typhoid mary - i got sick, it ruined more than half of 1,4ad, but whatever. as you can see, the weight isn't dropping...
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with regards to HDx2 gyno, couldnt forskolin be a culprit. i mean it upregulates cAMP right? and thus couldnt it in an direct way increase all hormones, including estro/prolactin?
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Ok, so I know this is one of those, uh, Voo you're an idiot moments but its time to come clean.

3 weeks
M1T @ 20mg

2 weeks
M1T @ 20mg
M5AA @ 40mg

4 weeks
Halo @ 50mg
Prop @ 90mg

4 weeks
1,4ad @ 800mg

pct:
SAMe 400mg
Hawthorne Berry 2.5g
Test Drive (6 pills daily)
Transdermal Formestane - 3 times daily (roughly 100mg applied to chest each time)

Thats it

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while I haven't done blood work, I stopped this a week and a half ago.... I seem to be back to me, I have acne on my back - something I only have when my test is back up where its supposed to be, while not actual evidence of test levels, good sign. Gotta call up the doc, but I think good test levels of 490-500 are in store for me.


And while all this isnt a question, Im posting it here as I know Dana is doing a lot of work with form.
Whew, your brave. I am going to do a 3-4 week pulse m-drol cycle starting a week from now with formestane as my primary PCT (and in low dose as my on-cycle AI/test booster on off days) but an extended m1t cycle bridged into a variety of other gear then finished with that pct is pretty ballsy. Power to you!