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Old 02-18-2008, 11:23 PM   #1
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Would this be a good way to test hormone levels? Never knew there were saliva methods:

Dr. Richard Cohen's OptiMale Hormone/Testosterone Test Kit
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:05 PM   #2
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very interested. I was unaware as well... Cant wait to hear the docs response.
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My apologies for not catching this one.

I don't have a lot of experience with this item, as I still believe serum levels to be highly superior despite their ad campaign.

The collection specifics are pretty rough from the DA link you provided T_I. That said, laboratory reference values, et al will vary based on lab specifics, time of day assessment, et al and the write-up didn't seem to reflect this. And to suggest either freeze or ship very quickly is a complete inacurracy. Samples should remain chilled/frozen en route - not usually something accomplished very readily (eliminate the potential for "ease" that is boasted about in the ad, huh?).

The big estimate that are also making is that this approximates the free fraction of the hormone (i.e. - that not bound to plasma proteins and/or SHBG), which is fine but knowing both total AND free hold pertinency for a better internal appreciation for what is going on. In other words, if we don't have a total estimate...we cannot make predicitions about where the potential issues may be should the free fraction come back low or high.

Personally, I don't like it nor do I think it serves as adequate replacement for a tried and true serum sample.


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cool deal, thanks for the info
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I know the anti'aging guys think the saliva tests are better for measuring cortisol....

Primordial performance sells saliva hormone testing kits as well.
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I would argue that NO hormonal test (serum or salivary) is accurate for true cortisol values that mean anything - its far too variable.

Serum CRH is probably the best test in this regard, but still you'd need quantitative estimates.


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