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1Fast400 isn't being sold still.

Bulk is seriously hard to come by and VERY expensive if sourced right.

May be best to get real dry bulk.

https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog...il/SIGMA/F2552



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1Fast400 isn't being sold still.

Bulk is seriously hard to come by and VERY expensive if sourced right.

May be best to get real dry bulk.

https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog...il/SIGMA/F2552



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Good grief this stuff is hard to find - some guy on AM said that China is really clamping down on this substance, so much so that even Proviant will not touch it due to potential legal issues surrounding the compound.
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Thats rediculous considering that Legal Gear, BCS, and few others still cary Formestane in their AI supplement.

I just regeistered at the linked page... hopefully I can order without too much problems.
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Thats rediculous considering that Legal Gear, BCS, and few others still cary Formestane in their AI supplement.

I just regeistered at the linked page... hopefully I can order without too much problems.
Yeah. Have you noticed the dosage size though? If D_ is saying 250 mgx4 per day, you basically finish the bottle in 1-2 days.

Stuff must be good since the govt does not want us to have access to it. Yes I am a conspiracy theorist
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Stuff must be good since the govt does not want us to have access to it. Yes I am a conspiracy theorist
Yeah, the dosages are pretty damn small.
Is the government watching you right now!?

Im going to try and find some... or order from that site (if possible)
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Yeah, the dosages are pretty damn small.
Is the government watching you right now!?

Im going to try and find some... or order from that site (if possible)
Did you ever order from the site D linked? If so, I am curious how it worked out for you. I did find one place still selling the bulk, but at $8/gram.
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did you see that IBE is releasing a MCP ether of formestane that supposedly greatly increases oral bio-availability.
i would love to hear doc's opinion on this.

also is the impact on cholesterol and triglycerides that formestane causes worth concern? atd had a very bad impact on my cholesterol levels.
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did you see that IBE is releasing a MCP ether of formestane that supposedly greatly increases oral bio-availability.
i would love to hear doc's opinion on this.

also is the impact on cholesterol and triglycerides that formestane causes worth concern? atd had a very bad impact on my cholesterol levels.
Do you have any links?

One of the things I have a feeling people forget with cholesterol and cycles is that when you go on cycle long enough, your body shuts down test production. As a result, your body also revs up cholesterol production (Total and LDL) while decreasing HDL (as HDLs job is to handle the other two). The reason behind this is that it is essential precursor for new androgen production. This is a normal homeostatic response. The only thing people tend to do wrong is knock cholesterol down in post-cycle when it is trying to aid your andorgenic disarray.

That said, the only thing I recommend is slowly increasing your HDL into post-cycle. Allow your body to correct the rest.

The formestane issues only happen post-cycle when you already have cholesterol woes to begin with. When people go on short-term form cycles (i.e. - 4-6 weeks), this is not a concern. The problem is that the two populations we have that use form are post cycling males (i.e. - with dismal cholesterol panels going in) and breast cancer females (where this may very well have androgenic effects).

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The same company that brought you new innovations like acetylated resveratrol, 2-bromomelatonin, and Epistane IBE is proud to announce its latest innovation: Formex. The wait for the most potent anti-estrogen ever to hit the market is over. Formex is a revolution in the battle against estradiol because it utilizes one of the most potent second generation steroidal aromatase inhibitors and supercharges it by rearranging the 17B-hydroxyl group to give you the longest lasting, legal anti-estrogen. This rearrangement, called methylcyclopentyl ether (MCPE), is what allows for the incredible increase in bioavailability, allowing for a smaller dose with much greater testosterone boosting and estradiol reducing effects. Don’t waste your money on regular formestane, which hastily breaks down in the body, experience IBE Formex and take your body to the next level!

What is actually in Formex?

Formex contains the MCP ether of formestane. The chemical name is 4-hydroxy-17B-(1'-methoxy)-cyclopentoxyandrost-4-en-3-one. As you can see Formex is not methylated as many of the harsher oral prohormones have become recently. Formex also does not need to be cycled because besides its potent anti-estrogen activity it is also mildly androgenic, which allows Formex to regulate proper HPTA function without suppression. The chemical structure is below:

Is Formex better than regular Formestane?

By far! IBE has corrected the problem with traditional formestane products; low bioavailability. With Formex you can now rest assured that your liver is not rapidly degrading your anti-estrogen before it ever reaches systemic circulation. How does this work? Formex resists biodegradation with a dual shield. The first defense is evasion. Typically when something is ingested it is carried through the stomach and into the small intestine where nutrients are absorbed and brought into circulation for processing. The vein responsible for this is the hepatic portal vein (HPV). As the name implies it brings blood directly to the liver for processing and is the site of regular formestane biodegradation. However, there is a loophole in this defense. The more lipophilic (fat loving) a substance is the lower the chance of it entering the HPV and the greater the chance of it entering lymphatic circulation. Since ethers cannot Hydrogen bond and a hydrocarbon group has been added, it becomes much more lipophilic. These substances can enter lacteals, make their way into the lymphatic system, bypass the liver, and reach systemic circulation before ever seeing the first sign of hepatic metabolism. This means not only can you get greater estradiol suppression but for a much longer period than before. The second defense is the MCPE in the 17b position. This group protects itself from cleavage because it is large and bulky and repels the enzyme responsible.

What can I expect with Formex?

With Formex you can expect to feel your libido skyrocket and watch your bloat dwindle away. Plus, Formex is not only an anti-estrogen but it also has mild anabolic properties that allow for strength and muscle gains, as well as a heightened ferocity in the gym. On cycle you can expect to see a hardened physique and greatly reduced risk of forming estradiol-induced gynecomastia.

When should I use Formex?

Formex can be used anytime that you would like greatly increase your testosterone levels, decrease levels of estradiol, and increase athletic performance.

ON CYCLE AND PCT: It can be used on cycle to reduce the bloat associated with aromatizing compounds or to prevent estradiol-related gynecomastia. Formex can also be used in PCT to prevent valuable testosterone from converting to estradiol. It is important to understand that the dosing regimen for Formex is much different than traditional formestane. Since it lasts longer in the body, it requires less frequent doses. In studies of cycloalkyl ether derivatives of estradiol, researchers found that these highly lipophilic substances were capable of being stored in fat and create a time released effect. Other studies have shown that formestane given parenterally at a mere 250mg inhibited the activity of aromatase >85% for 2 weeks! Since Formex enters systemic circulation similarly to formestane given parenterally you can achieve maximal results without the use of transdermals or injectables.

BRIDGE: One of the most effective uses for Formex is using it as a bridge between cycles. No need for a full, all out PCT between cycles, use Formex while recovering and prevent muscle wasting, while keeping libido elevated.

STANDALONE: Formex can be used as a standalone product to help maintain your gains throughout the year, decrease fat accumulation, keep you shredded for the summer, or give you the extra boost you need whether it be in the gym or the bedroom!

TRT: Formex can provide valuable protection against gynecomastia for those on TRT. The risk of gynecomastia while on TRT is greatly increased as the body adjusts to its surroundings by increasing circulating levels of CYP (aromatase) to combat the rapid rise in testosterone levels.

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