prolactin issues

[dinoiii]

Originally Posted by chitownhoker

on my next ph cycle should i take caber during the cycle or just in pct?

This actually depends on SO many things:

[1] If you are a cycle novice (i.e. - you have never ran a cycle before), your chances of having issue are VERY low because your breasts have not been "primed" (so to speak) with endogenous estrogen (unless perhaps you are obese, at which point one probably shouldn't be on cycle anyway).

[2] If you have run a cycle before, you need to examine the relative aromatizability you have undertaken during your cycles. Any level of shutdown occured?

And so on...


If you do see prolactin causing an issue, you can always add a dopamine agonist at that time. The relative negative feeback on serum gonadotropins would be minimal if you treat immediately, however, true abortion of the cycle need to take place as well. However, if this coincides with actual decline if you have already experienced shutdown, you likely won't have an issue as the resultant decreases in LH and FSH will have minimal effect on an already-suppressed HPTA and oftentimes you already would have Prolactin suppression with exogenous testosterone administration.

Don't look to add too much. Low-dose hCG equivalents may be more appropriate (if stacked with cabergoline as you would prevent the prolactin inhibition by offering a relative LH-agonist).

You could also simply use clomid to re-establish the axes and this has been done in the past (even in clinical trials with hyperprolactinemia).



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[Danzig666]

Originally Posted by dinoiii

This actually depends on SO many things:

[1] If you are a cycle novice (i.e. - you have never ran a cycle before), your chances of having issue are VERY low because your breasts have not been "primed" (so to speak) with endogenous estrogen (unless perhaps you are obese, at which point one probably shouldn't be on cycle anyway).

[2] If you have run a cycle before, you need to examine the relative aromatizability you have undertaken during your cycles. Any level of shutdown occured?

And so on...


If you do see prolactin causing an issue, you can always add a dopamine agonist at that time. The relative negative feeback on serum gonadotropins would be minimal if you treat immediately, however, true abortion of the cycle need to take place as well. However, if this coincides with actual decline if you have already experienced shutdown, you likely won't have an issue as the resultant decreases in LH and FSH will have minimal effect on an already-suppressed HPTA and oftentimes you already would have Prolactin suppression with exogenous testosterone administration.

Don't look to add too much. Low-dose hCG equivalents may be more appropriate (if stacked with cabergoline as you would prevent the prolactin inhibition by offering a relative LH-agonist).

You could also simply use clomid to re-establish the axes and this has been done in the past (even in clinical trials with hyperprolactinemia).



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Is there any OTC Dopamine products can someone obtain? What do you reccomend?

Would 6 Bromo help?

[SuperBig]

SAMe

[GotTest]

Originally Posted by Danzig666

Is there any OTC Dopamine products can someone obtain? What do you reccomend?

"The GotTest Dopamine Stack":
Tyrosine
P5P (or B6)
Standardized Mucuna (>15% dopa)

I'm looking into 1-carboxy to add to the mix next go around.

[Methylmania801]

bulk 1-carboxy is the way to go

[GotTest]

Originally Posted by Methylmania801

bulk 1-carboxy is the way to go

Good to hear!
Never tried it myself but have read some positive feedback in regards to recovery, sleep and libido.

[Danzig666]

Originally Posted by Methylmania801

bulk 1-carboxy is the way to go

Im trying out USP Powerfull. Is this a good product? Couldnt get the carboxy bulk.

[kmilky2113]

Originally Posted by GotTest

Good to hear!
Never tried it myself but have read some positive feedback in regards to recovery, sleep and libido.

might want to save your money....might be using too much L-dopa. This is a thread from a year ago with Dr. D

Bulk 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzol (3,4 diol)

[Danzig666]

Originally Posted by kmilky2113

might want to save your money....might be using too much L-dopa. This is a thread from a year ago with Dr. D

Bulk 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzol (3,4 diol)

I am taking
200mg SAM-e
400mg B-6
Powerfull for the 1 Carboxy
L-tyrosine (How much should I dose this at)??

Does that seem like to much?