187s (EQ-T)2 Log

[kplayon]

IMO 3k+ cals is bulking for me. Staying around 2k to 2750 is trying to maintain while trying to drop some BF% "for me that is". My weight is usually around 205-210. Food = Anabolic... But then again this is me though. Hope your run went alright 187!

[xjsynx]

Originally Posted by one8seven

I've seen many of your posts and I don't hold you in high regard, at all..So I'm going to wait to hear from some of the other members.

thx

Ever hear the saying, don't judge a book by it's cover?

The majority of my posts are nonsense and they are for entertainment purposes only, now if you want to judge me by my sophomoric posts, it doesn't make me none. But if you want to judge my body of work, you would realize I know a thing or too...

That being said, I will make an exception, already did by explaining myself, but I digress.

In order to gain muscle mass, you need adequate protein, and at 310g which is 1.55g per pound is good. You could bump the carbs up, but try to eat clean carbs and not heavy processed ones. But the biggest improvement would be with the EFA's.

As far as training, the rep scheme you employed might be good for some trying to burn fat or gain endurance. But you need to to dip in the 4-6 rep range and 8-10 range more.

Example for chest

A) Incline Bench press 5/4-6/180

B1) Flat DB Press 4/8-10/10
B2) Flat 3/4 DB Flys 4/10-12/120

C) DB press/fly combo 3/10-12/60

D) EQI stretch for 60-90 second

[one8seven]

I understand what you're saying. I think the term bulk and recomp caused this to get misconstrued. I ended up with a recomp as apposed to a full out bulk cycle over the cals ingested. I'll post some pictures in the next 48 hours for comparison. I still say the compound as a whole was inconsistent though with strength increase and really any effects at all. I don't think the caloric diff would have altered those effects. I could be wrong though? That's why this is being logged, for an open discussion.

[xjsynx]

I concur with you about the effects, you still should have felt them.

[DR_C]

To parapharse Mike Vick, I have a a dog in this fight so my comments will be discounted. Regardless, there have been several members who have pointed out some obvious shortcommings in this bulking cycle - diet, training, ect.

I wonder how you can report the following progress throughout your log...

(all copied directly from your posts)

** Day 4. My muscles seems fuller all around. Especially in my forearms. Down time appeared to be almost cut in half as well. I recovered from the BB rows like crazy. Every set felt like the first set. I really noticed it there. Seems like it may be creepin.

*Day 11. I'm holding weight it appears. I generally gain 2 or 3 and then within 2 days its gone but I'm holding it this time. My arms were crazy pumped, they still are right now and they feel a lot harder. Major diff than normal.
*Day 12. My arms are pumped as hell again. This is second day in a row for this. Not quite as much as yesterday but there's still a deference than usual every day.

*Day 15. Got 105 today. I was stoked. My forearms are dead though. They're sore as hell. Strength is deff up. I continue to lean out as well.


Then on Day 17, all the sudden someone suggests the product may not be working and bang you decide it is not working and you are moving on to PCT.

It seems from your posts that it was working - strength, pumps, quicker recoup time. Sounds like the product was doing exactly what it was designed to do.

Sorry to sound harsh but there are way to many shortcommings in the planing and execution to blame the "tools" you need to blame the craftsman.

Regards,

[LLLLern]

I think even with a low cal siet you should have some gains

[usf97j4x4]

Originally Posted by xjsynx

Ever hear the saying, don't judge a book by it's cover?

The majority of my posts are nonsense and they are for entertainment purposes only, now if you want to judge me by my sophomoric posts, it doesn't make me none. But if you want to judge my body of work, you would realize I know a thing or too...

That being said, I will make an exception, already did by explaining myself, but I digress.

In order to gain muscle mass, you need adequate protein, and at 310g which is 1.55g per pound is good. You could bump the carbs up, but try to eat clean carbs and not heavy processed ones. But the biggest improvement would be with the EFA's.

As far as training, the rep scheme you employed might be good for some trying to burn fat or gain endurance. But you need to to dip in the 4-6 rep range and 8-10 range more.

Example for chest

A) Incline Bench press 5/4-6/180

B1) Flat DB Press 4/8-10/10
B2) Flat 3/4 DB Flys 4/10-12/120

C) DB press/fly combo 3/10-12/60

D) EQI stretch for 60-90 second

I completely agree. Your rep range was a tad high.

Also, nutrition is a science and a well understood one at that. Use the formulas, calculate your BMR and maintenance and really you need to go from there.

Originally Posted by DR_C

It seems from your posts that it was working - strength, pumps, quicker recoup time. Sounds like the product was doing exactly what it was designed to do.

No offense but I get strength, pumps and quicker recomp from a NO/BCAA stack with virtually none of the dangers of a strongly methylated stack.

Originally Posted by LLLLern

I think even with a low cal siet you should have some gains

I don't agree... you may tighten up during the cycle but you need nutrients to create the muscle.

[DR_C]

Originally Posted by usf97j4x4

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No offense but I get strength, pumps and quicker recomp from a NO/BCAA stack with virtually none of the dangers of a strongly methylated stack.

Sure. I concur. I never wrote that other supps couldn't induce the same physiological response. I merely stated that the responses described by the logger are typical of PH usage.

Regards,

[LLLLern]

Originally Posted by usf97j4x4

I completely agree. Your rep range was a tad high.

Also, nutrition is a science and a well understood one at that. Use the formulas, calculate your BMR and maintenance and really you need to go from there.



No offense but I get strength, pumps and quicker recomp from a NO/BCAA stack with virtually none of the dangers of a strongly methylated stack.



I don't agree... you may tighten up during the cycle but you need nutrients to create the muscle.

not saying you will get huge but say when I done a cycle of M1A it was my 1st cycle I had little to no diet exp then and didnt eat huge. I gaind 12 lbs in 14 days and was shut down to the point that I had to stop. DBol will blow you up solo yes gains wont be as pronounced with a low cal diet but you will gain size in a hurry. I know it isnt Dbol but ya get the pic

[usf97j4x4]