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Old 07-27-2008, 11:43 PM   #31
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Have no idea about the amounts but I think these are it:
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Old 07-27-2008, 11:45 PM   #32
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How many bottles are you running for this cycle?
Old 07-29-2008, 12:28 AM   #33
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Just one bottle and those are the compounds-thanks Alden. If it were right here in front of me I'd pound 'em out, but alas...
I'm a day behind I think. Sunday was DL's and hamstrings with uphill cardio-ugh! I love this workout for the results, but my body hates me for putting it through it, lol. Busted it out though and had change to spare.
Monday was a switch-it-up day, I went to DB Chest, Cable flies, Abdominal and Core strength, and Hit the Bi's hard and heavy. Then, of course endurance cardio. I've never been a big fan of cardio, I'm more of an explosive runner so I have never had much of an endurance stride- but tonight felt good.
I'm up in weight after falling all the way down to 191.7...now I'm at 196.1
Still eating big. I usually eat pretty good on cycle (it's when I'm off that I struggle, LOL), but this time I feel like I am doing exceptionally well. Eating the right foods at the right time of day and am being cosistent with protein intake and amino supplementation. I'm definitely leaning out and dryting up a bit. Strength continues to get better too (that really is my main goal-that and to look like a stud in a tux, lol)
Any opinions on cortisol control? I've started legthening my workouts to challenge me more and think I should start taking this into serious consideration.
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Looking good. How long are your workouts now? From what I understand cortisol begins to kick in some time with in 45 minutes to an hour of lifting. Remember more is not alway better.
  1. L-Glutamine 10-15 grams after workout.
  2. Chormium to control blood sugar. Insulin spikes can lean to raised cortisol.
  3. B and C vitamins.
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Looking good. How long are your workouts now? From what I understand cortisol begins to kick in some time with in 45 minutes to an hour of lifting. Remember more is not alway better.
  1. L-Glutamine 10-15 grams after workout.
  2. Chormium to control blood sugar. Insulin spikes can lean to raised cortisol.
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Thanks bud, that's what I have been doing.

My workouts are going longer b/c my recovery is ridiculous. I will fail on DB presses (flat bench)-and then after working another muscle group for five min I can go and do another heavy set. The crazy thing is...I can usually squeeze out a couple extra reps. It doesn't matter what group I'm working either. The only exercises I haven't been able to duplicate this with is Leg Curls and Extensions. I think that is because I do 6-7 set of DL's (before hams) and 6-7 set of Squats (before ext) on the days I do those. So failure is absolute. But it feels absolutely fantastic.
A for instance: I have a bad left shoulder. Can't barbell bench for crap right now, but I can do all other sorts of presses no problem. But even when I am doing the DB presses from the flat position, when I am failing it's on my left side-but there is no pain as there would have been a little discomfort before. But even with this hindrance, I can come back five minutes later and do my identical weight that I failed out on at say 4 or 5 reps and push it 6 times-and then do a neg 8-count to finish it off. I've just never experienced that kind of recovery. So I get in extra sets as often as possible now when I am at the gym. So my weight training is going into the 75-100min range. Shoot, last night I did over my usual 30 sets and then jumped on the treadmill for 45 min of cardio. I probably would have kept going but my pump was so intense in my arms they kinda hurt. Vascularity was awesome, best its been in a while (probably more due to the cardio-kick as of late), but the pump was freakish. Better than the first time I tried NO-Explode (don't do that anymore, talk about splats).
So far the only sides I hae witnessed is oily skin and a shorter fuse. But frequent bathing and better sleep will probably subside these.
I believe I am a full week + 2 days in...so far= 9.5 (good s*** maynard)
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Thanks bud, that's what I have been doing.

My workouts are going longer b/c my recovery is ridiculous. I will fail on DB presses (flat bench)-and then after working another muscle group for five min I can go and do another heavy set. The crazy thing is...I can usually squeeze out a couple extra reps. It doesn't matter what group I'm working either. The only exercises I haven't been able to duplicate this with is Leg Curls and Extensions. I think that is because I do 6-7 set of DL's (before hams) and 6-7 set of Squats (before ext) on the days I do those. So failure is absolute. But it feels absolutely fantastic.
A for instance: I have a bad left shoulder. Can't barbell bench for crap right now, but I can do all other sorts of presses no problem. But even when I am doing the DB presses from the flat position, when I am failing it's on my left side-but there is no pain as there would have been a little discomfort before. But even with this hindrance, I can come back five minutes later and do my identical weight that I failed out on at say 4 or 5 reps and push it 6 times-and then do a neg 8-count to finish it off. I've just never experienced that kind of recovery. So I get in extra sets as often as possible now when I am at the gym. So my weight training is going into the 75-100min range. Shoot, last night I did over my usual 30 sets and then jumped on the treadmill for 45 min of cardio. I probably would have kept going but my pump was so intense in my arms they kinda hurt. Vascularity was awesome, best its been in a while (probably more due to the cardio-kick as of late), but the pump was freakish. Better than the first time I tried NO-Explode (don't do that anymore, talk about splats).
So far the only sides I hae witnessed is oily skin and a shorter fuse. But frequent bathing and better sleep will probably subside these.
I believe I am a full week + 2 days in...so far= 9.5 (good s*** maynard)
That sounds like me when I am on. I don't know I could do 45min of cardio after that kind of workout. I would be spent. That and if I start going to the gym longer then 2 hours every day my girlfriend wants to know if I would rather date a barbell then her.

What part of the P6 do you think is giving you the crazy recovery? And yes bathing is good.
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I dunno. I'm more enthusiastic about the extra endurance on the treadmill-never expected that on a Tren product. Blood pressure is just peachy too, don't know what to say. I have been "experimenting" with a new pre-workout and that may have something to do with it as well. It's called "Buzzerk" and I stack it with a scoop of waxymaize. I don't know if it has much to do with it since I practically had it forced down my throat by a client of mine that runs a nutrition store, but it's interesting stuff. Kre, Beta Al, L-Arg Keto, Caffeine and waxymaize (I add more cause its a little light on this ingredient for my liking). Gotta go do some squats, I'll hit this back later.
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I dunno. I'm more enthusiastic about the extra endurance on the treadmill-never expected that on a Tren product. Blood pressure is just peachy too, don't know what to say. I have been "experimenting" with a new pre-workout and that may have something to do with it as well. It's called "Buzzerk" and I stack it with a scoop of waxymaize. I don't know if it has much to do with it since I practically had it forced down my throat by a client of mine that runs a nutrition store, but it's interesting stuff. Kre, Beta Al, L-Arg Keto, Caffeine and waxymaize (I add more cause its a little light on this ingredient for my liking). Gotta go do some squats, I'll hit this back later.
If I was going to some up in one word what you have posted so far that word would be one of them.
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Supa highlight log looks good man. Give me a run down on it so far if ya don't mind. I wanna run p6 Black soon maybe or try Tren and Mdrol stacked
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From day one I lost 7lbs, then have re-gained 6 of those. I'm leaner, a s*%#load stronger and recovery is a novel idea. Except of course on DL and Squat days. I usually take it balls-to-the-walls on thise two exercises. It's been awhile since I have been able to do either one due to a series of minor injuries (b/c I'm frickin' stupid). But I straight-leg deadlifted 315x6 on Sunday, and squatted 295x6 today, so I am progressing well in both areas. I usually do between 5-7 sets of each on their respecitve days.

Today was another intense workout. I didn't have the endurance I have had thus far, I think mainly due to the heat and humidity in my gym (like 88 degrees with 50% humidity, friggin' ridiculous for lifting weights-on a side note they finally put two fans in last week, but they still are aimed at the ceiling for some reason). I wanted to jump on the treadmill and sweat it out but there was none open and I opted for four-square with some college kids (yeah, I can play playground games too), so I got a bit of a workout there.
Overall I'm still hanging in with a 9.5 on this one, it may fall to a 9 if my skin gets any oilier. Not having problems with acne (yet) though.
On another side note...The pump in my thighs was ferocious today. I wish I had done measurements pre-cycle. Every part of my body looks bigger and more defined. I'm excited to see the end result with this after PCT and compare it to my notes of my most successful cycles to see if it's value is comparable.