08-15-2008, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Supa-T
Getting somebody to take the pics is the challenge. I don't have B4 pics, but I'd like to get some back-shots up, I feel like my back, arms and thighs got the best of this cycle. I'm bridging into a 4AD, 1-T run for a few weeks. PCT is going to suck, lol.
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That will be an awesome finish. I did that stack back in the day and loved it. Yes PCT is going to be ruff.
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08-15-2008, 10:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Supa-T
Getting somebody to take the pics is the challenge. I don't have B4 pics, but I'd like to get some back-shots up, I feel like my back, arms and thighs got the best of this cycle. I'm bridging into a 4AD, 1-T run for a few weeks. PCT is going to suck, lol.
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What carrier are you using?
Do you have a pct protocol layed out yet?
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08-16-2008, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mmowry
What carrier are you using?
Do you have a pct protocol layed out yet?
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I have a bottle of 4 ADerm by avant labs, and a bottle of Molecular nutrition 1-Test ethergels. My main concern is the 1-Test and how much I need to be dosing, any sugg's?
As for the PCT protocol I was planning on using the one you laid out, maybe running some Clen in the middle of it, but I was planning on getting your opinion on that one first. Are there any variances I should take into consideration for PCT? I was planning on running an AI about a week into this one through the end to keep it dry as possible. Probably should have picked up some cissus, but I don;t think I'll get it in time to make a diff now. I started it (dermal 4AD) the other day @ approx. 500mg's. I sweat alot as it is, but holy crap! LOL Pure power of lifts have shot up and the my stamina even when I'm tired is just funny. I think this was a good decision following the P6 Black. I would've hated to go weak for a second half. But like I alluded to above, PCT is gonna bite.
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Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last; but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.
1 Corinthians 9:25-27
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08-16-2008, 04:32 PM
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1T ethers were a hit or miss.Many said they were bubk others said they had good results but almost all were running 4ad so that skews the results.
100mg (4 caps) is the low side for reported results.
Clen isnt the best on pct.You want to keep cals up to preserve muscle.I know that some say that clen is anabolic but Id need to see conclusive studies to believe this.
25%-50% dose of your AI of choice will keep you pretty dry also.
And yeah my pct will do very well. 
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08-16-2008, 04:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mmowry
1T ethers were a hit or miss.Many said they were bubk others said they had good results but almost all were running 4ad so that skews the results.
100mg (4 caps) is the low side for reported results.
Clen isnt the best on pct.You want to keep cals up to preserve muscle.I know that some say that clen is anabolic but Id need to see conclusive studies to believe this.
25%-50% dose of your AI of choice will keep you pretty dry also.
And yeah my pct will do very well. 
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What is it? 
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08-16-2008, 04:58 PM
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I'm going 200-250mg of the 1-T to see if I get any good out of it. Luckily it didn't break me, lol. And after further review I have been smearing on about 800mg of 4AD. I suppose I could abandon those and use the Andro Nitrate Fuel, but I was kind of hoping to save that for another time when I needed to break from methyls.
Thanks for the advice! I'll start up on the AI today (early), and maybe post some results weekly on this thread.
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Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last; but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.
1 Corinthians 9:25-27
"Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity."
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08-16-2008, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by alden003
What is it? 
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EASY PCT
Nolva 40,20,20,10
HDx2 4,4,3,3,2,2, or
ATD 3,3,2,2,1,1
EVERYTHINGANDTHEKITCHENSINK PCT
Nolva 40,20,20,10
HDx2 4,4,3,3,2,2, or
ATD 3,3,2,2,1,1
MFX 4,4,3,3,2,2
Lean Xtreme 4,6,6,4,4,2
Extra Virgin Coconut oil 2-3tbsp/day
you could also run all but the nolva as recommended for 8wks to have a natty test cycle.
Plus creatine,bcaas and the staples of course.
Thats the basic outline.But of course theres a ton of other stuff that can be added also.
I like the looks of CELs Cycle Assist also.
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08-16-2008, 07:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mmowry
EASY PCT
Nolva 40,20,20,10
HDx2 4,4,3,3,2,2, or
ATD 3,3,2,2,1,1
EVERYTHINGANDTHEKITCHENSINK PCT
Nolva 40,20,20,10
HDx2 4,4,3,3,2,2, or
ATD 3,3,2,2,1,1
MFX 4,4,3,3,2,2
Lean Xtreme 4,6,6,4,4,2
Extra Virgin Coconut oil 2-3tbsp/day
you could also run all but the nolva as recommended for 8wks to have a natty test cycle.
Plus creatine,bcaas and the staples of course.
Thats the basic outline.But of course theres a ton of other stuff that can be added also.
I like the looks of CELs Cycle Assist also.
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I like the looks of this one for a long cycle. I too am in the middle of a long cycle. Thanks bud.
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08-17-2008, 12:46 AM
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Could I sub E-form for ATD? And I was wondering about the coconut oil...?
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Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last; but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.
1 Corinthians 9:25-27
"Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity."
-unknown
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08-17-2008, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Supa-T
Could I sub E-form for ATD?Yes thats fine And I was wondering about the coconut oil...?Mediun Chain Trigylceride,fat used for energy AND hormone production among other thiungs
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I get mine from ebay just search virgin coconut oil.
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