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Old 12-07-2007, 05:54 PM   #1
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This protocol was layed out by Eric from Primordial for someone coming off TRT. So this isnt exactly a PCT protocol, however I thought it was some good info that some might be interested in:

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You’ve been dependant on testosterone for quite a while so it’s going to require an aggressive protocol to reinstate proper testicular function. hCG is going to be your first line arsenal in this battle. Clomid and Nolvadex can be useful too, but I don’t like either of these drugs because of their side effects. They are fairly toxic SERM’s which can have negative effects on libido, emotional health, sexual function, and even liver health. So, its really best if they are avoided.

Here is the best protocol Im aware of for someone in your situation. –

Discontinue the T replacement and immediately begin the following -

1000iu hCG (LH mimicker) shot every third day for 4 weeks. (intramuscular)

With

100iu hMG (FSH mimicker) shot every third say for 4 weeks.(intramuscular)

With

.25mg arimidex or letrozol for the last 3 weeks.

With

A natural vitamin E supplement and Dermacrine Sustain continued after hCG/hMG treatment.

Exactly why this protocol will work is more complicated to explain than just laying it out. The basic points here involve using both LH & FSH at the same time (hCG & hMG). This will allow the hCG to work better than using it alone since the hMG will increase your testicular sensitivity to the effects of hCG. The vitamin E and Derma Sustain will also help this. The arimidex or letrozol will control the estrogen formation during this aggressive treatment, and hopefully allow you to bounce back quickly once you drop the hCG/hMG. (As you probably know, high estrogen can be a major suppressor of LH/FSH and testosterone production.)

I suggest you discuss this with your doctor, but keep one thing in mind.

Unless your doctor is a “cutting edge” endocrinologist he is not going to be familiar with the above treatment, let alone actually agree with it. Hopefully he will be understanding enough to write the script without too much bustle. Whatever you do, don’t “dabble” in any half ass protocol – as you will likely decrease your chances of success. For instance, don’t try the hCG alone, as this will eventually desensitize your testes and decrease you chance of a full recovery. Hit it hard and fast.

-Eric
Old 12-07-2007, 06:48 PM   #2
 
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i like the HCG and anastrazole use right out of the gates, but i cant really see it working without a heavy SERM smack to the face in there somehwere after HCG is discontinued.

i do not like that letro is in there. too harsh and unpredictable. what a twitchy litttle AI. cant stand it
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i like the HCG and anastrazole use right out of the gates, but i cant really see it working without a heavy SERM smack to the face in there somehwere after HCG is discontinued.

i do not like that letro is in there. too harsh and unpredictable. what a twitchy litttle AI. cant stand it
Yeah, Eric has always been against the use of SERM's for the most part. Although I have seen him recommend it for PCT in a low low dose so I'm not sure why he doesnt here...

I need to reread that thread on his site again.

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