Blood Work Pre PCT post cycle Epistane pulse.

[zpnq]

This is blood work is from before PCT was started. Sorry i didn't get any blood work for before the cycle so there is nothing to compare with.
This blood work was taken on Friday 14th, 2 days after my last dose. I have a follow up order here i can go into the clinic and have it done when ever. I was thinking 4th of January?


The cycles was

6 Week pulse 3 x wk Mon, Wed, Fri.

wk 1 - 10, 20, 30
wk 2 - 30, 30, 30
wk 3 - 30, 30, 30
wk 4 - 40, 40, 40
wk 5 - 50, 50, 50
wk 6 - 50, 50, 0 (decided to cut the cycle short and get my blood work done on the Friday, no reason other than convenience.)

Dosages were taken before and after workouts. Larger dose before workouts and the rest after.







Allot of the thingos are in the high range of normal e.g. sodium, potassium Glucose, phosphate etc etc.

ALP is 183 which is way over the norm, What is ALP? and How bad is this?

I am not sure what standard the Androgens are measured in, but its not the same as what i have seen around the place ( i am in Australia).
Test is in the lower half of normal, but free test is in the higher half of normal this seems a bit strange to me ?? Estrogen was supposed to be there as well, but its not for some reason.

SHBG is in the lower end of the scale.

Wish i had blood work from before the cycle, so i had something to compare with :(. Next time i will have pre-cycle blood work done.

An OTC PCT is what i have been running since the blood work was done. Some people suggested a SERM and would accept no other options :/. This advice seems extreme to me and this blood work and the follow up blood work iis a bit of an indicator as to weather or not a SERM should be used in this kind of scenario.

Updates to come soon. I'll post the follow up Blood work and the PCT i used.

[Right Hook]

Hmmm, interesting. ALP is alkaline-phosphatase. Normally an elevated level would say there is some liver stress going on however your other liver values look fine. Here is some more basic info on ALP:

http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disor...ne-phosphatase

Like I said though I dont believe you have anything to worry about. Did you lift within 24-28 hours prior to the blood draw? Also what did your ON cycle support supps look like?

[RisingAgainst]

Originally Posted by Travis

Hmmm, interesting. ALP is alkaline-phosphatase. Normally an elevated level would say there is some liver stress going on however your other liver values look fine. Here is some more basic info on ALP:

http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disor...ne-phosphatase

Like I said though I dont believe you have anything to worry about. Did you lift within 24-28 hours prior to the blood draw? Also what did your ON cycle support supps look like?

yay captain obvious...

[Right Hook]

Originally Posted by RisingAgainst

yay captain obvious...

Thank you! Lol. It's funny though I ran havoc for 5+ weeks (not pulsed) at higher dosages and liver values were all fine. I thought pulsing was suppose to improve sides like this...

[RisingAgainst]

Originally Posted by Travis

Thank you! Lol. It's funny though I ran havoc for 5+ weeks (not pulsed) at higher dosages and liver values were all fine. I thought pulsing was suppose to improve sides like this...

you'd be amazed how far OFF base pulsing methods are.

[zpnq]

Originally Posted by Travis

Hmmm, interesting. ALP is alkaline-phosphatase. Normally an elevated level would say there is some liver stress going on however your other liver values look fine. Here is some more basic info on ALP:

http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disor...ne-phosphatase

Like I said though I dont believe you have anything to worry about. Did you lift within 24-28 hours prior to the blood draw? Also what did your ON cycle support supps look like?

I had the tests on a friday morning and i went to the gym on the previous Wednesday night. So blood was drawn about 38 hours after lifting.

I had no on cycle support, apart from a anti-cort and some 6-bromo on off days.
like you said in another post pulsing is supposed to be better for sides. I have follow up test in early jan to see if the ALP is dropping. Could have already been a preexisting problem, no pre cycle bloods to tell though.

Originally Posted by RisingAgainst

you'd be amazed how far OFF base pulsing methods are.

Can you elaborate on this?

[zpnq]

Originally Posted by Travis

Thank you! Lol. It's funny though I ran havoc for 5+ weeks (not pulsed) at higher dosages and liver values were all fine. I thought pulsing was suppose to improve sides like this...

How did your test and free test levels look after this?

[Right Hook]

Originally Posted by zpnq

How did your test and free test levels look after this?

I didnt get a hormonal panel done. I will only spring for that if I feel there are some issues after PCT.

[zpnq]

In the last week at 50mg, i noticed a slight drop in libido and i was a little snappy on off days. My morning wood was only half mast, usually it'd be a raging boner and id have to do a handstand to go for a piss.
I think 50mg for pulsing is too much for a test rebound to be prominent.
Over the last 3 days i have noticed morning bones were on a steady increase and today its was back to handstands at the toilet .

for my PCT i have been taking
Resveratrol 1200mg @50% and I3C 600mg i got from a naturopath ( bit pricey though I will source it from the states next time),
Mass fx 4 caps
ALRi Restore. 3 caps

Then i have:
Creatine and Now multi vits that are kind of staples out side of pro-hormones

I haven't been taking any liver support sups during my PCT, from info gathered about pulsing i thought there wouldn't be a need. Several weeks back i ordered some SAMe, no idea whats taking it so long. When it does arrive i'll start taking it. And it'll be a staple ON cycle support sup from here on in as well.

[Right Hook]

Keep us updated bro. I saw you posted this on AM and trauma chimed in....listen to him, he works with this stuff everyday so he is a good resource.

He actually linked you to some of my bloodwork he helped me out with, lol.