PCT for Epidrol + Tren-250 Stack

[DrMips]

Hi All,

I've been lurking around for a while and decided to register. A bit about me: I'm Male, 35y, 5' 11" and 176 pounds (18% bf). I have 12 years training experience, but had a 5 year break when I was living in Spain. I've been training again for the last 16 months. I'm from the UK (someone has to be ), so some of your supps are hard to come by.

My PH experience is a 4-week pulse of Epi (40mg 3 x week, No PCT) and a 4-week cycle of Tren-250 (75mg ED, 4 week PCT of Formadrol Extreme). I enjoyed both supplements with minimal sides.

I'm looking to add some lean bulk. My diet and training are sorted (lost 14 pounds of fat then added 13 pounds lean bulk over 12 months). I will be stacking Epidrol+Tren-250 (aka Spawn) and would appreciate it if you could critique my PCT. I have already bought everything, so unless it's really necessary I would like to keep the supplements in my list.

On Cycle
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Week 1-6: Epidrol 30mg ED (3 caps)
Week 1-6: Tren-250 75mg ED (3 caps)
Week 1-6 Cycle Insurance ED * (2 sachets)

PCT
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Week 7-12 Cissus-Drol 1125mg ED * (3 caps)
Week 7-12 X-Lean 200mg ED (4 caps)
Week 7-12 Cycle Insurance ED * (2 sachets)

I was originally going to run Epi+Tren-250 for 4 weeks, but I have enough for 6 weeks. Do you think this will be too long with my PCT?

I'm double dosing the X-Lean, but do you think I need to increase the Cissus-Drol dosage as well?

Thanks for any help or comments!


* Cycle Insurance Ingredients (2 sachets)
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Milk Thistle Extract (80% Silymarin) 1000mg
Hawthorn Berry Extract (Crataegus Oxyacantha 10:1 Extract) 1000mg
Celery Seed Extract (10:1 Extract) 150mg
Tribulus Terrestris (40% Saponins 700mg)
N-Acetyl Cysteine 1200mg
Red Yeast Rice 1200mg
Idebenone 100mg
Nettle Root (16:1 Urtica Dioica)
Jiaogulan Extract (Gynostemma Pentaphyllum) (90% Gypenosides) 150mg

* Cissus-Drol Ingredients
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Ketosterones Extract from Cissus Quadranglaris
DVTHF
Forsklin Extracts
6-Bromodione

[Sampson]

First off, I would like to welcome you to Lean Bulk, its nice to have you here! Now to the part that really matters haha.

So you are wanting to stack 30mg Epistane w/ 75mg Tren-250 for a 6 week run? I am not sure exactly what this Tren-250 is but after a little research it seems to be a tren clone, and is non-methylated. However, there is very little information to be found on the product. I would be somewhat suspicious with this one. Also, you mention that it is the same as spawn? Spawn is Tren Xtreme and Epistane combined.

I am somewhat unfamiliar with Cissus-drol and X-Lean, but I believe Cissus-drol is a Hyperdrol clone and X-Lean is a cortisol blocker by IBE.....is this correct? At any rate, I wouldn't do an OTC PCT for a 6 week run of these two compounds. I think you would really be pushing it. Try to get your hands on some nolva.

[DrMips]

Thanks for the welcome Sampson.

Tren-250 is the same compound as Tren Xtreme, and I've been told that Cissus-Drol is a combination of Hyperdrol and Mass-FX.

I'm trying to get away with not using Nolva. Maybe I should run the two compounds as separate cycles. I know that my 4 week run with Tren-250 (Tren Xtreme clone) I got very little shutdown so I don't see a problem running this for 6 weeks on it's own. Do you think a 4 or 6 week cycle of just Epi at 30mg/day would need Nolva? I'm not going to run my cycle until April, so if Nolva is a must, I will order it from the States.

Cheers!

[DrMips]

I took your advice and ordered 30 x 20mg Nolva from a UK website (hope it's legit) so I will be doing the 6 week cycle and then...

DAY 1, 60MG NOLVA
DAYS 2-10, 40MG NOLVA EACH DAY
DAYS 11-21, 20MG NOLVA EACH DAY

Roll on April