New And Perfect Otc Pct Product!!!!!

[THEHUGE]

This is not a joke.Seems like many consumers here,experienced hardcore bodybuilders,knows what would be the best compounds to put in an otc pct product.This is the ONLY forum where something like this can be done(very little to no trolls here at Leanbulk!!!).Any smart suggestion is welcome and maybe,after an educated discussion,we can make(I'm working on something folks) an ACTUAL perfect(at least almost perfect) post cycle therapy supplement.Please feel free to post your opinions and suggestions. My first two ingredients: forskolin and zinc picolinate. If someone disagree with the inclusion of the above compounds please post your thoughts. And I'd love to get your advices about the addition of any other legally available substance.If they keep selling crap,let's get supplements formulated on demand.I'll do my best to make that product real. Let's start the party....

[LLLLern]

say AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[solomon1979]

The only company releasing anything in the future that I shows some promise is LG Science. They are releasing new ingredients and are not merely releasing a "Sustevol" product for PCT.

We have a product coming soon that will change the way you view PCT! It is a patent pending new approach to delivering pSERMs.

Most people take a AI or a SERM for PCT, unfortunately the SERMS on the market today are either illegal or poorly absorbed. The poor absorbtion makes it nearly impossible to afford a proper PCT protocol or get enough in the blood to be effective.

SERMs are the very best way to increase testosterone and testicle size after a cycle of steroids or prohormones. Yet, many people have to take an illegal cycle of Tamoxifen, which is dosed very unscientifically and also could perhaps make liver stress worse. SERMs block estrogen at the receptor and although there are very good phyto-SERMS (pSERMs) out there, they get rapidly metabolized by the stomach, liver and intestines, so, the only choice is to take massive doses to try and overome the intestinal enzymes that reduce them to inactive metabolites. This is a huge problem for proper PCT support, since this fire and hope for the best approach isn't a very good solution.

Enter...sublingual delivery! Sublingual means under the tounge! Putting things under the tounge has been used in pharmaceuticals for a long time to give immediate release and better absorption for things that get destroyed in the intestines, like B12 and NitroGlycerine. Sublingual delivery has been used to deliver prohormones with greater frequency and effect, keeping blood levels high. We have adapted this versatile ingredient profile to give you the best possible NATURAL SERM delivery system to help you kick your dependence on illegal pharmaceutial drugs which may have further liver taxing effects.

The first ingredient is the only KNOWN natural SERM. Meaning it is seletive for tissues and that is Ellagic Acid. Ellagic Acid is extrated from raspberries and is shown in the scientific literature to be a SERM.

The Department of Biological Chemistry, Medical School, University of Athens Mikras Asias Str 75, Goudi, Athens 11527, Greece. found "These findings suggest that ellagic acid may be a natural selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM)."

So, using and increasing Ellagic Acid may be of HUGE benefit for the PCT of pro-steroids and pro-hormones.

Next we added resveratrol, which is a naturally occuring ERM that blocks estrogen and has been shown in the literature to block estrogen and increase testosterone. Unfortunately resveratrol is rapidly metabolized in the body. According to this study by the Department of Cell and Molecular Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics, Medical University of South Carolina, Charleston, SC 29425 titled HIGH ABSORPTION BUT VERY LOW BIOAVIALABILITY OF ORAL RESVERATROL IN HUMANS "Most of the oral dose was recovered in urine, and liquid chromatography/mass spectrometry analysis identified three metabolic pathways, i.e., sulfate and glucuronic acid conjugation of the phenolic groups and, interestingly, hydrogenation of the aliphatic double bond, the latter likely produced by the intestinal microflora. Extremely rapid sulfate conjugation by the intestine/liver appears to be the rate-limiting step in resveratrol's bioavailability."

Resvertatrol is destroyed by the liver and intestines, so massive oral doses have almost no effect. Luckily sublingual dosing bypasses both tissues and should deliver much higher doses of both Resveratrol and Ellagic Acid to all tissues in the body.

This amazing sports supplement should reduce the dependency on illegal or grey market underground PCT products and give you the pSERMs needed to boost your testosterone safely!

We are releasing a new supplement that is unlike anything on the market. It's called...Anadraulic State (tm)

This new item will contain in a powdered form some things never before seen in the supplement world, plus a unique combination of ingredients:

Four Phase Testosterone Analog:

1 - Generation 2 Anti-Aromatase - This will obviously boost testosterone, this one is a little less potent than ATD or Androsterone, yet strong enough for daily use.

2 - Generation 2 SERM - This will reduce the estrogenic profile in the body and further boost testosterone by increasing LH.

3 - Receptor Technology - Increases androgen sensitivity

4 - pSARM - Next generation pSARM with androgen-like effects.

Surrounded in a base of:

Essential Amino Acids (free form - hydrolyzed)
Waxy Maize Starch
Cortisol Reducers (important for a better anabolic environment)
A new form of Creatine (the patent pending stuff we have been working on) that should be much more bioavailable
Beta Alanine - for reduction in lactic acid

Its been in my experience that an all-in-one product does work well for PCT, b/c there will always be some element that is left out or not adequately covered. Its just the way it is. I find it funny that someone would think that an all-in-one PCT would be a novel idea, but would have something negative to say about hormonal products with multiple ingredients. Really, they are the same thing..........

Oh, and Forskolin causes stomach discomfort for a lot of users and best left dosed on an empty stomach. If you were to include something like trans-resveratrol in your product, then it would have to be taken with food for adequate absorption. Certain ingredients will always contradict the other in an all-in-one product. That's why it best to just take the products separately to allow for correct supplement timing.

[mmowry]

Im looking forward to feedback on LGs product.

I also want to see what you come up with HUGE.

[solomon1979]

Originally Posted by mmowry

Im looking forward to feedback on LGs product.

I also want to see what you come up with HUGE.

I'm looking forward to Reverse. When is that one coming?

[mmowry]

I keep hearing soon but Im not sure....you know how that goes though.

[dinoiii]

What is "reverse?"

A new IBE product???



D_

[mw1]

Originally Posted by dinoiii

What is "reverse?"

A new IBE product???



D_

Yep!!!

[mmowry]

Sorry about the hijack!

[solomon1979]

Back on topic........I think an ultimate PCT product should consist of two separate products. One should be designed to be taken throughout the day and be designed for libido boosting and have anti-oxidants in it. The second should be the aromatase complex and should also contain a product to assist with sleep and contain a multi mineral blend.