Best OTC PCT

[Beejis60]

Originally Posted by mvasquez830

No body uses otc pct for superdrol, at least, I think so.

This coming spring I will be trying OTC PCT for SD with numerous blood panels. I confident it will work.

Originally Posted by Ironhead

6-bromo is really solid OTC AI and has given good results---kept gains, restored sex drive, etc.

Not a good idea due the one isomer (I think it's the alpha isomer) metabolizes into a potent anabolic thus needing a PCT for your PCT. It has not been demonstrated to me that a single 6-bromo product has pure beta isomer (assuming that the alpha isomer is the isomer that metabolizes into that potent anabolic).

[xjsynx]

Originally Posted by Beejis60

Depends on what steroid you're on; there's no one best PCT, but I definitely like Dr. P's suggestions.

DR P for PCT, hmmmmm




Or do you mean Dr D or Dr C, or the resident doc dinoiii (who is not Dr D).

[mmowry]

I think he means Dr P from bb dot C

[mmowry]

Originally Posted by Beejis60

Not a good idea due the one isomer (I think it's the alpha isomer) metabolizes into a potent anabolic thus needing a PCT for your PCT. It has not been demonstrated to me that a single 6-bromo product has pure beta isomer (assuming that the alpha isomer is the isomer that metabolizes into that potent anabolic).

So have you ever used it for PCT or are you just going off of what PA says?


Ive talked to many people that have used 6 Bromo in PCT and were successful.ATD is touted to have the same "anabolic" effects but Ive used it in pct for yrs.

[LBVT]

Originally Posted by brand77

I think watching a little porn would be enough PCT for H-drol at 50mg/day...

Seriously though, it is realy mild. I think 6-OXO would be fine for the AI portion of PCT. You could always add some I3C,Same, etc. Activate Extreme or Drive would be good as well if you have the funds, but no need to go overboard on PCT for H-drol.

So 6-OXO dosed at 300mg/day for 30 days and label recommended dosage for Activate Extreme for 30 days would be sufficient enough for an H-Drol PCT?

[Ironhead]

Originally Posted by Beejis60

This coming spring I will be trying OTC PCT for SD with numerous blood panels. I confident it will work.



Not a good idea due the one isomer (I think it's the alpha isomer) metabolizes into a potent anabolic thus needing a PCT for your PCT. It has not been demonstrated to me that a single 6-bromo product has pure beta isomer (assuming that the alpha isomer is the isomer that metabolizes into that potent anabolic).

No disrespect...but even PA says that the literature notes that that alpha isomer may convert into a "potent anabolic." Its not conclusive. I've had no problem whatsoever with a "crash" after discontinuing 6-bromo necessitating a "PCT for my PCT" and other users have had lab work done to indicate zero suppression. Also, Dinoiii has some pretty good info to balance out this issue.

[Beejis60]

Originally Posted by mmowry

I think he means Dr P from bb dot C

I prefer Mr. Pibb.

Originally Posted by mmowry

So have you ever used it for PCT or are you just going off of what PA says?

I've seen other stuff on it too besides from him.

Ive talked to many people that have used 6 Bromo in PCT and were successful.ATD is touted to have the same "anabolic" effects but Ive used it in pct for yrs.

I used it for PCT a few years ago, actually on an SD clone from which I didn't see, notice or feel anything.

Originally Posted by Ironhead

No disrespect...but even PA says that the literature notes that that alpha isomer may convert into a "potent anabolic." Its not conclusive. I've had no problem whatsoever with a "crash" after discontinuing 6-bromo necessitating a "PCT for my PCT" and other users have had lab work done to indicate zero suppression. Also, Dinoiii has some pretty good info to balance out this issue.

I understand, but the fact that is may convert is enough for me to avoid it, especially after a cycle the shuts down the big boys

[brand77]

Originally Posted by LBVT

So 6-OXO dosed at 300mg/day for 30 days and label recommended dosage for Activate Extreme for 30 days would be sufficient enough for an H-Drol PCT?

Yep, definately. I think that would be quite solid.

[Ironhead]

Originally Posted by Beejis60

Not a good idea due the one isomer (I think it's the alpha isomer) metabolizes into a potent anabolic thus needing a PCT for your PCT. It has not been demonstrated to me that a single 6-bromo product has pure beta isomer (assuming that the alpha isomer is the isomer that metabolizes into that potent anabolic).

Check out this aricle Stereochemistry of the functional group determines the mechanism of aromatase inhibition by 6-bromoandrostenedione -- Osawa et al. 121 (3): 1010 -- Endocrinology

especially, "We have found that 6 alpha-bromoandrostenedione (6 alpha-BrA) is a competitive inhibitor of human placental aromatase with respect to androstenedione..."

Also, http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract...?sessid=6006l3

The end of the 2nd paragraph, "Furthermore,
both 6a- and 6b-bromoandrostenedione are competitive
inhibitors of androstenedione aromatization, as determined
by a Lineweaver-Burk plot, and 6a-bromoandrostenedione
gives the same type I cytochrome P-450 binding
spectrum with placental microsomes as androstenedione. These
data suggest that 6a-bromoandrostenedione is effective as an
active-site-directed inhibitor of placental microsomal aromatase"

PA just wants you to believe that 6-OXO is the ONLY solid OTC AI...Oh wait does Ergopharm make that product??