Clomid & Nolvadex - The Dark Side

Primordial Performance · 08-25-2008, 06:41 PM

Leanbulk members,

Here is our latest article -

It’s a review of the pharmaceutical history, short-term side effects, and long-term consequences to Clomid and Nolvadex -

Clomid & Nolvadex's Toxic Side Effects Exposed - Liver damage, Impotence, Cancer, Loss Of Vision

It may be of interest to some of you.

-Pp

mw1 · 08-25-2008, 06:52 PM

Interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEHUGE · 08-25-2008, 06:56 PM

Nothing I haven't read already,but it scares me everytime...

LLLLern · 08-25-2008, 07:24 PM

nice info

mad dog · 08-26-2008, 06:21 AM

Yeah i have read these articles many times and it does get scary. the vision problems are almost always due to people taking dosage advice from so-called gurus who tell everyone these substances need to be high dosed. And yes they do affect vision at high doses.

**CygonX** · 08-27-2008, 05:11 PM

You have to wonder if that company is about to put out a PCT product. I am hoping that since all those resources he listed are a bit older that a lot of that may be conjecture versus fact. From my experience those two work quite well, butt I would try any other compound if I could find one without ATD in it, it seems most the PCT products have that in there, and I didn't like it's reduced libido effects at all.I am hoping new PCT will use the methyl-ATD that apparently is supposed to have less sides, but I have not seen one on the market yet.

THEHUGE · 08-27-2008, 05:45 PM

1) PP has already a PCT product,pretty good according to the feedbacks
2)If SERMs worked well for you this means NOT they are safe as candies
3)methyl-ATD is in a Fast Action product, REVIVE-T.

GotTest · 08-27-2008, 07:14 PM

Most of the "studies" I've read on SERMs were done during LONG periods of time with OLDER postmenopausal WOMEN. I have yet to find a research paper addressing one month use of recommended dosing of SERMs for PCT and HPTA restoration.

All the hormonal bloodwork I've read on several boards seem to support the use of SERMs for HPTA restoration. Especially Torem and Clomid!

Yes... we should all be aware of sides that could occur, but some of these "toxic" articles are no different than the "Steroids are Bad" articles that say you'll be sterile, lose all your hair, be impotent, and have gyno. Sides are possible...but intelligence does factor in here.

usf97j4x4 · 08-28-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GotTest

Most of the "studies" I've read on SERMs were done during LONG periods of time with OLDER postmenopausal WOMEN. I have yet to find a research paper addressing one month use of recommended dosing of SERMs for PCT and HPTA restoration.

All the hormonal bloodwork I've read on several boards seem to support the use of SERMs for HPTA restoration. Especially Torem and Clomid!

Yes... we should all be aware of sides that could occur, but some of these "toxic" articles are no different than the "Steroids are Bad" articles that say you'll be sterile, lose all your hair, be impotent, and have gyno. Sides are possible...but intelligence does factor in here.

Advice against the 2 most common SERMS used in the PCT timeframe for a company that pushes reservatrol as a solo anti-estrogen. Seems a bit biased if you ask me. Hmm..

Primordial Performance · 08-29-2008, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usf97j4x4

Advice against the 2 most common SERMS used in the PCT timeframe for a company that pushes reservatrol as a solo anti-estrogen. Seems a bit biased if you ask me. Hmm..

Yes, I think the bias is obvious. But it doesn’t take away from 30 years of established toxicity associated with these drugs.

The problem is, who is going to expose these drugs? Surely not individuals who have their hands in the profits of ancillaries or the sponsor’s thereof…

-Eric