19 Nor Tren products

[lionelxxl]

Has any of you guys tried the 19-Nor variant of tren?

How does this look: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/fastaction/md1t.htm

Overpriced?

This looks underdosed: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/fastaction/trena.html

Xtreme Tren or Tren Xtreme are pretty popular choices too.

[Voodoo]

the first one is a phera and finigenx mag combo.

The second just finigenx magnum.

I have always wondered what a mass dosed ride of finigenx mag would do to ya, well find out what happens in a month of two when I run MDien at high dose.

M-dien - 17a-methyl-17 beta-hydroxysteroid-4,9(10)dien-3-one
Tren - 17ß-hydroxestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one

[thesinner]

Active hormone is Dienolone.

"Dione" Tren Precursors would be:
19-nor-andro-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione
Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione

I believe are classified as illegal. I also don't know how easy it would be to get a ketone on 17 and an olefin at 11.

[GotTest]

Originally Posted by thesinner

Active hormone is Dienolone.

"Dione" Tren Precursors would be:
19-nor-andro-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione
Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione

I believe are classified as illegal. I also don't know how easy it would be to get a ketone on 17 and an olefin at 11.

I think Trenadrol is the closest you'll get to Trenbolone.
17bmethoxy- Trienbolone(aka trenbolone)

[lionelxxl]

Originally Posted by thesinner

Active hormone is Dienolone.

"Dione" Tren Precursors would be:
19-nor-andro-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione
Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione

I believe are classified as illegal. I also don't know how easy it would be to get a ketone on 17 and an olefin at 11.

Why are they illegal sinner? Are the products available now, like others, in the gray area too?

What's a good dose of the product? I've heard 60-90mg/day.

[lionelxxl]

Originally Posted by GotTest

I think Trenadrol is the closest you'll get to Trenbolone.
17bmethoxy- Trienbolone(aka trenbolone)

according to solomon, the 19Nor product is the one with the most feedback (4 years i think) and has solid evidence backing it. The trenadrol (Mega-TRN) compound is still not very well-researched.

[GotTest]

Originally Posted by lionelxxl

according to solomon, the 19Nor product is the one with the most feedback (4 years i think) and has solid evidence backing it. The trenadrol (Mega-TRN) compound is still not very well-researched.

I was speaking on a molecular similarity between the listed "tren" products.
They are ALL a 19Nor, but Trenadrol is the only one of the 3 that has a double bond at 11, like Trenbolone.
Nor, just indicates the removal of CH3(methyl) from a molecule. In this case, at the 19 position.

I think the body would have an easier time with removal of the methyl at 17 position, than creating a double bond at 11. Bioactivity is a whole different story though.
Maybe sinner can explain how the body converts these compounds?

[RisingAgainst]

Originally Posted by GotTest

I think Trenadrol is the closest you'll get to Trenbolone.
17bmethoxy- Trienbolone(aka trenbolone)

Originally Posted by GotTest

I was speaking on a molecular similarity between the listed "tren" products.
They are ALL a 19Nor, but Trenadrol is the only one of the 3 that has a double bond at 11, like Trenbolone.
Nor, just indicates the removal of CH3(methyl) from a molecule. In this case, at the 19 position.

I think the body would have an easier time with removal of the methyl at 17 position, than creating a double bond at 11. Bioactivity is a whole different story though.
Maybe sinner can explain how the body converts these compounds?

once again, just cuz they have it printed on the label, doesnt mean squat... odds are its nothing anywhere, even remotely, close to tren or any of it's "PRECURSORS" which DO NOT exist... ignore kilosports' fuckup and let them be... the poor bastards don't know any different.

[GotTest]

Yeah RA, I was speaking in terms of nomenclature. I'd hate to say it ain't what's on the label, when I never tested it. Not my style.

I'm getting where I don't trust PH's labeling anymore either.
I'm testing ALL PH's from here on out before taking them.

You never did tell me what's in the caps that's getting everyone strong as hell?

[EYAYO]

BCS labs finagex magnum clone is now dosed 50mg per pill. Ima def hit this up in the future