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Old 01-09-2008, 07:44 PM   #1
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what is going on with ids? does anyone have any knowledge on ids? on the their product mass tabs, the old label contains an ingredient called stenbolone. well this product got pulled and reformulated. the new substance is labeled as methyl stenabol. whats going on with this stuff??? was it really sten in the origional formula? i ran the old mass tabs last spring and gained 17lbs!!! so what does it all mean?
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what is going on with ids? does anyone have any knowledge on ids? on the their product mass tabs, the old label contains an ingredient called stenbolone. well this product got pulled and reformulated. the new substance is labeled as methyl stenabol. whats going on with this stuff??? was it really sten in the origional formula? i ran the old mass tabs last spring and gained 17lbs!!! so what does it all mean?
i have no idea.now they have mass caps xp?and something about multiple mass making anabolics.lol
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what is going on with ids? does anyone have any knowledge on ids? on the their product mass tabs, the old label contains an ingredient called stenbolone. well this product got pulled and reformulated. the new substance is labeled as methyl stenabol. whats going on with this stuff??? was it really sten in the origional formula? i ran the old mass tabs last spring and gained 17lbs!!! so what does it all mean?
Sounds like the same thing to me...
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Im sure it is just same name runoff, different ingredient profile. like the old halodrols
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despite bad reviews of ids, i ran the old mass tabs and blew the f up
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well fellas, i just got off of the phone with a contact from ids...due to the feds breathing down their (ids's) neck and the cost AND unreliability of raw materials coming in from overseas (primarily china) ids has been forced to temporarily discontinue MOST of their ph's. but they are going the route of IBE, waiting out the drama, and then re-releasing their products. also mass tabs DOES have the good stuff in them
-no wonder why i gained 17 lbs!
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an idea just struck me. since mass tabs contain stenbolone (aka methyl stenabol), wouldnt it make sense to use something a little stronger than an otc pct?

from big cat:

...As far as ancillary drugs are concerned with stenbolone, their use is minimal. No anti-estrogens are required because it is incapable of forming estrogen. Since its only a mild, and due to its short ester, very controllable androgen, no real precautions need to be taken on that front either. Simply discontinuing the product when problems arise should suffice. Post-cycle use of Nolvadex or clomid for a short period of time is recommend, but has a limited use. After long cycles (10+ weeks) one may consider using HCG and a longer therapy with Nolvadex and or clomid to bring back natural testosterone faster and help one retain the gains made....

so again is it really stenbolone in mass tabs? i gained 17 lbs, everyone i know who took this product had great gains relavant to their ph/ps experience. doesnt sound like just another bunk ph to me.

Dr. D, you wanna ring in on this? what should you choose as a pct for this product?
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an idea just struck me. since mass tabs contain stenbolone (aka methyl stenabol), wouldnt it make sense to use something a little stronger than an otc pct?

from big cat:

...As far as ancillary drugs are concerned with stenbolone, their use is minimal. No anti-estrogens are required because it is incapable of forming estrogen. Since its only a mild, and due to its short ester, very controllable androgen, no real precautions need to be taken on that front either. Simply discontinuing the product when problems arise should suffice. Post-cycle use of Nolvadex or clomid for a short period of time is recommend, but has a limited use. After long cycles (10+ weeks) one may consider using HCG and a longer therapy with Nolvadex and or clomid to bring back natural testosterone faster and help one retain the gains made....

so again is it really stenbolone in mass tabs? i gained 17 lbs, everyone i know who took this product had great gains relavant to their ph/ps experience. doesnt sound like just another bunk ph to me.

Dr. D, you wanna ring in on this? what should you choose as a pct for this product?
From the sounds of it though, this product can be highly toxic. I would still suggest use of your RX PCT, even if what BigCat says holds true. I would still think toxicity would be your major concern here. 10 weeks would probably be wayyy to long for something like this and to even suggest its use at this length is beyond me.
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an idea just struck me. since mass tabs contain stenbolone (aka methyl stenabol), wouldnt it make sense to use something a little stronger than an otc pct?

from big cat:

...As far as ancillary drugs are concerned with stenbolone, their use is minimal. No anti-estrogens are required because it is incapable of forming estrogen. Since its only a mild, and due to its short ester, very controllable androgen, no real precautions need to be taken on that front either. Simply discontinuing the product when problems arise should suffice. Post-cycle use of Nolvadex or clomid for a short period of time is recommend, but has a limited use. After long cycles (10+ weeks) one may consider using HCG and a longer therapy with Nolvadex and or clomid to bring back natural testosterone faster and help one retain the gains made....

so again is it really stenbolone in mass tabs? i gained 17 lbs, everyone i know who took this product had great gains relavant to their ph/ps experience. doesnt sound like just another bunk ph to me.

Dr. D, you wanna ring in on this? what should you choose as a pct for this product?
and what are your gains relevant to your ph/ps experience?
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