PA's: Over-The-Counter Steroid Products

[J2jud]

So did anyone catch his column in MD for the past two issues? If you havent and are wondering about his thoughts on all the "designers" out right now, then I highly suggest taking some time into reading his thoughts.

17a-Methyl-androstan-2ene-17b-ol = "phera" or DMT (Desoxymethyltestosterone)
PA, Has said "It has a very high anabolic potency that has measured as anywhere from 12 times that of methyltestosterone." and "The product is non-aromatizing and it's toxicity appears to be lower than that of some other methylated orals." - (Patrick Arnold)

[Sampson]

Originally Posted by J2jud

So did anyone catch his column in MD for the past two issues? If you havent and are wondering about his thoughts on all the "designers" out right now, then I highly suggest taking some time into reading his thoughts.

17a-Methyl-androstan-2ene-17b-ol = "phera" or DMT (Desoxymethyltestosterone)
PA, Has said "It has a very high anabolic potency that has measured as anywhere from 12 times that of methyltestosterone." and "The product is non-aromatizing and it's toxicity appears to be lower than that of some other methylated orals." - (Patrick Arnold)

Good stuff jud. Do you have the full text articles? I would love to read them.

Phera has been my favorite designer thus far. Great strength and size gains with minimal sides compared to superdrol. I love the stuff.

[CuChulainn]

interesting, i will have to try it sometime after my current superdrol pulse. Most of what i had heard prior to this was phera having equally bad sides as superdrol, but wet gains instead of dry ones. Plus it is more androgenic than superdrol, while superdrol is more anabolic, right? Wouldnt it make for a good stack of the two then, as long as you kept the individual doses low. Phera pre workout for the savage workouts and the superdrol post for the anabolic properties.

too many good supps, not enough time = )

need to try halo, phera, propadrol, epistane. all have had wonderful reviews = D

[J2jud]

Originally Posted by Sampson

Good stuff jud. Do you have the full text articles? I would love to read them.

Phera has been my favorite designer thus far. Great strength and size gains with minimal sides compared to superdrol. I love the stuff.

Unfortunately, the article is only available through Muscular Development magazine. I tried looking for it on MD, but they dont carry atricles as the magazine does.

PA, actually called this his favorite as well. I bought a couple of bottles to use later down the road. I ran a moderate cycle of phera that ended 2 weeks ago. The gains were amazing and dry. I had relatively zero sides to note except for increased aggression and terrible back pumps. I will not run another steroid for quite some time to max out my natural gains then proceed to something else.

This compound is something of unknown to many guys except for the bad rap of aggrivated gynecomasteia. I believe this is because of individuals who ran phera with a progestin which brings about bitch tits quite easily. For this reason, I think phera has had a bad rap. But dont get me wrong, everyone reacts to steroids differently. This is why you never stack things that you've never tried before.

[mad dog]

YEAH i have those MD mags[PA] and i can't wait till the next one. He has interesting
take on various p-hormones.

[Voodoo]

Originally Posted by J2jud

So did anyone catch his column in MD for the past two issues? If you havent and are wondering about his thoughts on all the "designers" out right now, then I highly suggest taking some time into reading his thoughts.

17a-Methyl-androstan-2ene-17b-ol = "phera" or DMT (Desoxymethyltestosterone)
PA, Has said "It has a very high anabolic potency that has measured as anywhere from 12 times that of methyltestosterone." and "The product is non-aromatizing and it's toxicity appears to be lower than that of some other methylated orals." - (Patrick Arnold)

and the fact that PA brought DMT back from the grave back in the late 90s has nothing to do with the fact hes so interested in the product right
If the product doesn't aromatize then why the water weight everyone talks about? As a general whole its considered a great mass builder and the wettest ph someone can take. Liver toxicity isnt that bad from what Ive seen, but I believe the toxicity of orals is drastically over hyped.

[J2jud]

Originally Posted by Voodoo

and the fact that PA brought DMT back from the grave back in the late 90s has nothing to do with the fact hes so interested in the product right
If the product doesn't aromatize then why the water weight everyone talks about? As a general whole its considered a great mass builder and the wettest ph someone can take. Liver toxicity isnt that bad from what Ive seen, but I believe the toxicity of orals is drastically over hyped.

Ha! He did mention that HE did bring it back, but I concur with him that it has very nice "Dry" gains as I didn't gain much in water weight at all while using phera. However, this does not apply to everyone that uses the compound. I to agree that toxicity is not as strong as people claim it to be, but there are compounds like Superdrol which is a definite liver strain.

[J2jud]

Also, according to Bill Llewellyn desoxymethyltestosterone is NOT armoatized in your system.

[celc5]

Originally Posted by J2jud

Also, according to Bill Llewellyn desoxymethyltestosterone is NOT armoatized in your system.

Any concrete evidence that there's no prolactin involvement either? Luckily, I've had no instances of gyno but DEFINATELY had abnormal nipple sensation in my 4th and 5th week of a phera run. These sensations stopped within 2-3 days post cycle.

Also, I had no increased aggression from phera and don't see it as being much use for a preworkout effect. I had only very very slight increased shedding and I think I should have been very susceptible had I run an androgenic compound.

[J2jud]

Originally Posted by celc5

Any concrete evidence that there's no prolactin involvement either? Luckily, I've had no instances of gyno but DEFINATELY had abnormal nipple sensation in my 4th and 5th week of a phera run. These sensations stopped within 2-3 days post cycle.

Also, I had no increased aggression from phera and don't see it as being much use for a preworkout effect. I had only very very slight increased shedding and I think I should have been very susceptible had I run an androgenic compound.

Hmm... You were on straight Phera and nothing stacked/combo?
Prolactin shouldnt be a problem with phera, but I'll look into it.


The Anabolic to Androgenic Ration (according to ANABOLICS 2007)
SUPERDROL:..........PHERA:
andro- 20 ...........andro-187
anabolic- 400 ........anabolic- 1,200