New to PH/DS looking for a little advice.

[Gixxer82]

Originally Posted by Spetsnaz

About non OTCs:-
Most non OTCs require you to pin.
And you need good suppliers, which could be spiked with something that have a longer half life that the substance reported on the label.
Plus its a serious criminal offence in the US if you get caught.
At effective levels that you will need a SERM, and that's another batch of illegal substances. How many have needed a SERM with H-Drol?
There are OTCs there gives good risk/reward profiles and bad ones. Take the good risk/reward profile ones and save yourself any potential trouble with the law.

Should be using a serm anyways, which are in the grey area - don't make it into something its not.

Originally Posted by mvasquez830

Yeah, you are better off with supps. from the legal point of view. Alot of ph's give you good gains and are safe to take with an otc pct. As far as serms theres ways of attaining these chems from different places.
I faced a problem like you also was thinking of a steroids but, first you have to find a good supplier with legit stuff and won't get you into legal trouble also.
Anyways, best choice I think in my opinion is PH's.

...lol...ok so by taking stuff bought OTC you think you're not taking 'steroids' ? Keep telling yourself that.

steroids: havoc, superdrol, pheraplex -- among others

I see you are bundling everything into 'phs' -- do you even know what a 'PH' is?? I doubt it. And then you go on to say they are all safe to take with an OTC PCT??? Take your dumb advice and keep it to yourself please. You are not helping ANYONE, rather HURTING anyone who takes your words as truth.

[Supa-T]

Originally Posted by Gixxer82

Should be using a serm anyways, which are in the grey area - don't make it into something its not.



...lol...ok so by taking stuff bought OTC you think you're not taking 'steroids' ? Keep telling yourself that.

steroids: havoc, superdrol, pheraplex -- among others

I see you are bundling everything into 'phs' -- do you even know what a 'PH' is?? I doubt it. And then you go on to say they are all safe to take with an OTC PCT??? Take your dumb advice and keep it to yourself please. You are not helping ANYONE, rather HURTING anyone who takes your words as truth.

Gix is right (maybe sugar-coat it a little more, lol). Oral steroids are still steroids and you can use OTC PCT, but it is much wiser to have SERM's handy for the stronger cycles (SD, PP, etc).
Don't short-change your body, it is a vengeful bastard and will repay your arrogance 10x for not using proper PCT. Do your homework pre-cycle and plan everything out all the way down to PCT on its final day several weeks pre-cycle so you are prepared and are able to get the most out of your cycles.