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Old 09-17-2008, 11:21 PM   #1
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Smile Dienedrone+Furazadrol

First cycle. dienedrone + furazadrol.
1bottle of dienedrone
1bottle of furazadrol

Support Supps:
bacopa monnieri
omega-3-fishoil
4-ad
hawthorn berries

PCT:
Reversitol while also continuing to take supprt supps.

Already bought everything, spent all my money on it i have 0 money to spend on anything else i was told this is all i needed. it's all in the mail now. i need help from anybody expereinced with suggestions, and advice. preferably dosage and how to take pct. Thank you please reply i appreciate the help.
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okay since nobody have helped you out .. i will throw in my advice ..

let me get this correct .. for your support sups your adding in 4-ad by AMS ..if thats the case .. please dont do it .. save the bottle .. that is not a support sup

as for other sups are great, i would add some milk thistle/saw palmetto in the mix as well ..or get one of those all in one product

PCT : whenever i do a cycle ..i always do nolva or have on hand .. iForce-reversitol looks pretty solid .. report back and tell us how it works .. seems like one of those all in one PCT product

bottom line .. you should get some more support sups(different)
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thanks alot for your advice i really appreciate it. 4-ad is for my libido which i will not be using while on pct. dienedrone has 100mg of milk thistle in it, so as far as i know im ok on that. saw palmetto, will look into, nolva on the other hand, i have no idea where to get it and as far as i know reversitol is a serum as well as a test booster. other than that, you do believe my current support supps are good? please get back to me and thanks alot.
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another thing, i will only be using 4-ad weeks 3 and 4 of during my cycle. i also know it is a muscle builder, but i have much concern for my libido. if u really think it's not necessary let me know, and why. i have $0 to buy anything else such as nolva which is why i chose reversitol as i've gotten great feedback on it and it seems to be the top of the line pct product (standalone) right now. any other suggestions or advice please let me know, thanks alot i appreciate it. it is my first ph cycle and everything is already on it's way, i have no intention to turn back now as it's a bit too late and i've spent lots of money on it lol.. im sure you know what i mean.. thanks again
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thanks alot for your advice i really appreciate it. 4-ad is for my libido which i will not be using while on pct. dienedrone has 100mg of milk thistle in it, so as far as i know im ok on that. saw palmetto, will look into, nolva on the other hand, i have no idea where to get it and as far as i know reversitol is a serum as well as a test booster. other than that, you do believe my current support supps are good? please get back to me and thanks alot.
Milk thistle .. bro 100mg is nothing, users will take anywhere around 600mg to 1G a day while on a cycle ..and i would advice you to do the same .. saw palmetto will protect your prostate glands and is highly important when you run a PH cycle

Nolva .. it is very expensive and hard to find
Reversitol .. i havent used this nor have i seen a log of this to believe how it works .. yah i see the ingredients ..looks solid though
Current Support sups .. if your low on $, i would just invest in saw palmetto & more liver support(can be found down at vitamin shoppe ..and they are havin a buy1 get 50% off sale)

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another thing, i will only be using 4-ad weeks 3 and 4 of during my cycle. i also know it is a muscle builder, but i have much concern for my libido. if u really think it's not necessary let me know, and why. i have $0 to buy anything else such as nolva which is why i chose reversitol as i've gotten great feedback on it and it seems to be the top of the line pct product (standalone) right now. any other suggestions or advice please let me know, thanks alot i appreciate it. it is my first ph cycle and everything is already on it's way, i have no intention to turn back now as it's a bit too late and i've spent lots of money on it lol.. im sure you know what i mean.. thanks again
4-ad, i thought it was a smiliar to a PH, so thats why i said i wouldnt use it during PCT ,,if its just a natty tbooster ..then i would add on, but do a research on it ,, as im not familiar with this product ..so wouldnt want to give you any wrong info.

$ issue, next time for your support sups, i advice you to look into one of these things : Cycle Support by Anabolic innovation or Cycle Assist by CEL or Life Support by AI .. these all products are designed to combat sides, such as liver, cholestrol, headaches, etc.

pct .. if you have gotten feedback on it .. go ahead and use it ... like i have said before. .i havent heard anything about it nor i have try it ..but would luv to hear your feedback

also on a cycle .. drink arnd 1-2gallons of water a day and upatake on cals/protein since it is your 1st run, that will give you great gains.
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ok no problem. thanks for the advice man i really appreciate it.
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What dose will you be running the dienedrone and furazadrol at?
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well personally, i would like to run them for maximum results, i don't play around. but, this is what i was thinking.

week 1: 50mg dien(pre-workout) 50mg furz(30 min before bed)
week 2: 50mg dien(morn) 50mg dien(pre-workout) 50mg furz(30 min before bed)
week 3: 50mg dien(morn) 50mg dien/50mg furz(pre-workout) 50mg furze (30 min before bed)
week 4: 50mg dien(morn) 50mg dien(noon) 50mg dien/50mg furz(pre-workout) 50mg furz(30 min before bed)

so, week 1: 50mg dien 50mg furz
week 2: 100mg dien 50mg furz
week 3: 100mg dien 100mg furz 2caps 4-ad
week 4: 150mg dien 100mg furz 4caps 4-ad
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wanted to bump week 3 of dien to 150 as well, but.... that all depends on how i feel. thanks
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Milk thistle .. bro 100mg is nothing, users will take anywhere around 600mg to 1G a day while on a cycle ..and i would advice you to do the same .. saw palmetto will protect your prostate glands and is highly important when you run a PH cycle

Nolva .. it is very expensive and hard to find
Reversitol .. i havent used this nor have i seen a log of this to believe how it works .. yah i see the ingredients ..looks solid though
Current Support sups .. if your low on $, i would just invest in saw palmetto & more liver support(can be found down at vitamin shoppe ..and they are havin a buy1 get 50% off sale)



4-ad, i thought it was a smiliar to a PH, so thats why i said i wouldnt use it during PCT ,,if its just a natty tbooster ..then i would add on, but do a research on it ,, as im not familiar with this product ..so wouldnt want to give you any wrong info.

$ issue, next time for your support sups, i advice you to look into one of these things : Cycle Support by Anabolic innovation or Cycle Assist by CEL or Life Support by AI .. these all products are designed to combat sides, such as liver, cholestrol, headaches, etc.

pct .. if you have gotten feedback on it .. go ahead and use it ... like i have said before. .i havent heard anything about it nor i have try it ..but would luv to hear your feedback

also on a cycle .. drink arnd 1-2gallons of water a day and upatake on cals/protein since it is your 1st run, that will give you great gains.
Nolva- not that expensive, easy to find, google it up man, lots of places to get from...
Support supps : all thats needed is AI cycle support
and if you need some libido boost you can use DHEA, you wont need the 4-ad,

your doses seem a tad low on furazabol.

everything else looks solid, Reversitol is a great product. theres blood work floating around here somewhere, and here it is

These are our initial blood work #'s from Subject: "Jay"

Testing done by: Kevin Tagdiri M.D. Encinitas, CA


We did pre cycle bloodwork, post cycle, and post pct. Here is what we found



Pre-cycle bloodwork

General Chemistry

Sodium - 145
Potassium-4.4
Chloride-104
C02-30
Glucose-105 ABNORMAL - HIGH
Calcium-10.1

Kidney Function

Bun-13
Creatinine-1.0
Male GFR-88

Liver Function

AST-25
ALT-21
ALK Phosphatase-97.0
Total Bilirubin-0.9
Albumin-4.5
Total Protein-7.3
Globulin-2.8


Lipid Studies

Cholesterol-155
Triglycerides-42
HDL-57
LDL-90



Hormonal Function

Tot Testosterone-504.7



Tumor Markers

PSA, Total-2.0



Post Bold200/Methadrol bloodwork

General Chemistry

Sodium - 148
Potassium-4.4
Chloride-105
C02-29
Glucose-95
Calcium-10.3

Kidney Function

Bun-19
Creatinine-1.8 ABNORMAL HIGH
Male GFR-85

Liver Function

AST-41 ABNORMAL HIGH
ALT-32 ABNORMAL HIGH
ALK Phosphatase-101.0
Total Bilirubin-0.8
Albumin-4.8
Total Protein-7.6
Globulin-2.8


Lipid Studies

Cholesterol-185
Triglycerides-36 ABNORMAL LOW
HDL-40
LDL-110



Hormonal Function

Tot Testosterone-14.3



Tumor Markers

PSA, Total-2.0




Post Reversitol bloodwork

General Chemistry

Sodium - 146
Potassium-4.5
Chloride-104
C02-29
Glucose-103 ABNORMAL - HIGH
Calcium-9.8

Kidney Function

Bun-14
Creatinine-1.1
Male GFR-89

Liver Function

AST-29
ALT-25
ALK Phosphatase-99.0
Total Bilirubin-0.8
Albumin-4.3
Total Protein-7.5
Globulin-2.7


Lipid Studies

Cholesterol-168
Triglycerides-40
HDL-50
LDL-98


Hormonal Function

Tot Testosterone-495.1



Tumor Markers

PSA, Total-2.0





Cycle:

Weeks 1-4: Bold200 @ 600mg/day
Weeks 5-8: Bold200 @ 600mg/day, Methadrol @ 20/20/20/30
Weeks 9-13: Reversitol 3/2/2/1/1



Numbers of interest:


Starting Testosterone: 504.7


End of Bold200/Methadrol: 14.3(can we say shut down?)


End of Reversitol PCT: 495.1

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