Do you need to do things different when using H-Drol for ...

[Spetsnaz]

cutting rather than bulking?

Like in terms of calorie deficit? Aggressive (1000 or more) or normal (500 or so).
Supps that have synergy with H-Drol when cutting and those that are redundant and are best used off cycle?
Any advice appreciated.

[usf97j4x4]

I wouldnt exceed 500 below maintenance

[DW90]

It depends are you going for more of a recomp or straight cut ?
Recomp stay around 200 above or below maintenance depending on your body
Cutting i would gradually decrease calories each weak .But wouldnt go much below 500
Dont take to much stims while on for blood pressure reasons
Diet cardio weights and hdrol will have amazing results alone

[lionelxxl]

I have this dreaded feeling that PHs are a waste to use while cutting.

I just don't think you're getting all that you want outta it in a caloric deficit.

IMO, you may be better off doing stims/thermos or e+c to cut and maintain LMM than using H-Drol, epi/havoc and the works.

Just my gut feel..

[MMAMonster19]

Yes personally i wouldnt use a PH for a cutting cycle in my own opinion not neccessary i like thermogenic caps thats what ive used in the past and worked great, but as well i have not yet taken any PH so i could be wrong but i do agree with lionelxxl

[Spetsnaz]

I have tried Thyrocut/Thyrotabs, some effect but still not enough.

Tried the EFA protocol, some fat loss but it only got serious when I slash calories to about 1500. Can't say for sure it works better than baseline. Maintenance is about 2400-2500. And thats with 7Keto and Forslean to boot. I will probably keep taking 7Keto and Forslean as they keep warm.

Think I need more powerful stuff... Its the last few pounds. I lost fat off my legs (wasn't too bothered with that and chest, upper back. What's left is the abs. Took off another 3-4mm, around 15mm using calipers but want it down to <10.

Another option I have heard is a low dose of Havoc, 10 or 20mg. But I leaning towards H-Drol as it seems to have less sides for most people.

A deficit greater than 500 seems to be what it takes to send the message, BURN FAT off the abs and get the order executed.