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HamerTime3 · 11-22-2008, 10:42 AM

Feedback on PH cycle, i wanna run h drol/bold for my next cycle, i workout pretty hard 5days a week and do cardio 3 times a week, im looking to put on size with strength and have solid dry gains, and stay lean, is this a good stack.

mw1 · 11-22-2008, 11:50 AM

Yes ..Is this your first cycle? If so dose the Bold at 600-800 for 6-8 weeks and Hdrol for the last 4 weeks at 50mgs.

thiggin · 11-22-2008, 12:13 PM

You would want to run Bold for at least 8 weeks and at 600-1000mg ED. You won't see or feel anything for 2-3 weeks when it "kicks in", it takes a while for it to build up enough potency in your body. That's why you will want to run it for 8-12 weeks. As far as the H-drol, the last 4 weeks with 50/50/50/50 sould be fine I don't see a problem with running them together because Bold is non-methylated and H-Drol is methylated. Just make sure to be taking you liver support!!!

As far as a PCT, I didn't know if you had something in mind but here is my opnion;

Weeks 1-6 Post Cycle Support (Trans Resveratrol/IC3)
Weeks 1-8 Lean Xtreme (Cortisol blocker)
Weeks 3-8 6 oxo 600/600/300/300/300

When you come off cycle your test is gonna be shut down. There isn't much worry at that point about conversion to estrogen through aromatase so the first thing you want to accomplish is too get your test production started. That's what Post Cycle Support is for. Your body is in a stresed state and so elevated cortisol levels could contribute to storing body fat, muscle loss, etc so Lean Xtreme covers that portion. Once your test production gets up you will need to start worrying about estrogen conversion so the 6 oxo will help to knock out any estrogen rebound. Make sure you eat clean and take in plenty of fats and proteins.

**spartan300** · 11-22-2008, 12:51 PM

bold has low conversion rates to estrogen, and there have been reported cases of gyno (do a search and u can read about the doc's post on this)...get ahold of some eform if you can, just in case....

HamerTime3 · 11-22-2008, 12:52 PM

thanks thiggin, ya i planned on running the Bold for 8 weeks at 800mg and hdrol for 6 weeks at 50mg, and as far as Pct im running 6oxo weeks 4-8 600/600/300/300 and lean extreme through, i was thinkin about Testabolan for cycle support...how does it compare to Trans Resveratrol or IC3?

GQ-Nemesis · 11-22-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HamerTime3

thanks thiggin, ya i planned on running the Bold for 8 weeks at 800mg and hdrol for 6 weeks at 50mg, and as far as Pct im running 6oxo weeks 4-8 600/600/300/300 and lean extreme through, i was thinkin about Testabolan for cycle support...how does it compare to Trans Resveratrol or IC3?

im confused .. are u saying that ure going to be running your PCT along with bold and hdrol(since both of the products are being run for over week4 and your starting your pct in week4

???

HamerTime3 · 11-22-2008, 01:06 PM

my bad the 6oxo i was gonna run for 4 weeks following the cycle weeks 8-12

GQ-Nemesis · 11-22-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HamerTime3

my bad the 6oxo i was gonna run for 4 weeks following the cycle weeks 8-12

yup now it makes sense .. your cycle looks great .. pct is in place as well .. get your support sups and you should be good to go .. when are you thinkin of starting this ?

also good luck on ya cycle

HamerTime3 · 11-22-2008, 01:24 PM

as for support supp is the testabolan a decent supp. for this stack... im thinking to start this when i get products.

thiggin · 11-22-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HamerTime3

thanks thiggin, ya i planned on running the Bold for 8 weeks at 800mg and hdrol for 6 weeks at 50mg, and as far as Pct im running 6oxo weeks 4-8 600/600/300/300 and lean extreme through, i was thinkin about Testabolan for cycle support...how does it compare to Trans Resveratrol or IC3?

Trans Resveratrol or IC3 are ingredients that you want to find in the Post Cycle Supp that you decide to take.

Trans-Resveratrol:

Trans Resveratrol is found in the skin of red grapes and is a constituent of red wine. Similar to Nolvadex, Trans Resveratrol works at the receptor level to block estrogen receptors. This means you will be eradicating estrogen while boosting the natural production of Testosterone. The key to Trans Resveratrol is its capability of modulating estrogenic receptors as well as controlling Aromatase. No other compound provides that One Two Punch against Estrogen.

Indole-3-Carbinole:

A naturally occurring phytochemical found in vegetables such as broccoli and cabbage. Indole 3 Carbinol has the powerful effect of modulating estrogen metabolism. Estrogen metabolism is key to the progressive effect of relevant hormones. In general there are two metabolites that can be classed as ?bad? which are known as estrone metabolites. There are also Good Estrogens, consisting of estradiol and 2-hydroxyestrone. Consumption of I3C has been shown on several occasions to increase Good Estrogens while effectively decreasing Bad Estrogen. This provides the atmosphere for strength building.