Epistane

getemboi · 10-08-2007, 12:24 AM

Has anyone ran this ? If so what were your results ?

UNCfan1 · 10-08-2007, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by getemboi

Has anyone ran this ? If so what were your results ?

There are a shitload of reviews at anabolicminds. I seen reports of great strength, decent mass, gyno reduction and in about 3 cases slight flare up of gyno(or what they think is gyno).

I have seen doses range from 30-60mg and one cat was talking about hitting 80mg. 30-40mg seems to be a great spot for most when it comes to sides vs gains.

GotTest · 10-09-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by getemboi

Has anyone ran this ? If so what were your results ?

Ran this last month and loved the strength/size results!

Every workout I kept grabbing heavier weight, and the compliments on size were never ending!

I tapered the first few days to 40mg, pulsed the first week, then changed over to 40mg/day for the last 4 weeks. I changed to ED to more effectively eliminate gyno. I reduced some size, but ELIMINATED sensitivity.

Sides were minimal but there toward the last week of cycle.
Couple days of debilitating back pumps (my mistake got busy, and didn't drink enough water/taurine)
LETHARGY (thank God for stims).

**RisingAgainst** · 10-09-2007, 08:59 AM

50mgs for 3 weeks stacked with 90mgs of propadrol... best cycle I've ever ran. Gained a total of 2 lbs, but dropped 6 in fat, perfect recomp, strength was good, vascularity was great, and libido was off the wall.

GotTest · 11:09 AM

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50mgs for 3 weeks stacked with 90mgs of propadrol... best cycle I've ever ran. Gained a total of 2 lbs, but dropped 6 in fat, perfect recomp, strength was good, vascularity was great, and libido was off the wall.

Glad you through that out there RA!
I was going to stack my next Epi run, and was looking really close at Prop.

How about 40mg/day Epi and 60mg/day Prop for 4 weeks?

Saw your post at DA regarding Epi stack....
Great layout of potential stacks!

**RisingAgainst** · 10-09-2007, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GotTest

Glad you through that out there RA!
I was going to stack my next Epi run, and was looking really close at Prop.

How about 40mg/day Epi and 60mg/day Prop for 4 weeks?

Saw your post at DA regarding Epi stack....
Great layout of potential stacks!

40/60 works, but IMHO the 3 week 50/90 was way better than the 40/60 would be in FIVE weeks

celc5 · 10-09-2007, 12:08 PM

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40/60 works, but IMHO the 3 week 50/90 was way better than the 40/60 would be in FIVE weeks

why?

muad33b · 10-09-2007, 01:32 PM

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why?

Cause at 60 prop isn't that spectacular... but at 90 or 120 it's pretty sweet... but you need to be careful at 120... I'd watch BP closely, as Prop made mine go up a bit...
so, if I was gonna do that, I'd run 50/120 for 6 weeks, fo' sho'!

Although this would be of a more intermediate nature... and a serious wallet drain, with 2 bottles of Epi (with a taper on either side, or a long taper in, you could make this last) and 3 bottles of Prop... plus support and PCT...

I like Epi, but it is very mild IMHO. more so the Halo... here's the current double-methyl cycle (don't try this at home kids) that I'm on (design assistance goes to my good buddy Mr. RA, so I can't take all the credit):

Weeks 1-3:
Epi-Max @ 60/day (ramped up with 20,30,40,40,40,40,40,50,60)
E-form @ 8 squirts/day (ramped up, and then had to knock this off at the end of week 3 as I was getting to dry; will end up using this as part of my PCT)

Weeks 4-7:
Epi-Max @ 50/day
Halo-Mass @ 50/day
SAMe @ 200mg/day (> 4hours away from PH/PS dosage)
T2 (PBL TRX; clone of SAN Thyrocust) @ 4/day (short taper in and out)

Week 8:
Epi-Max @ 50/day (taper off, depending on what's left in the last bottle, haven't done the exact math, but there's enough to go the week)

Weeks 9-17:
ActiveaTe-Extreme: 6pills/day
E-form @ 8 squirts/day
Creatine (haven't been using this or really much else while ON)

Weeks 9-12 (roughly):
Without getting into too much detail here: SERM, ATD, Anti-Cort (LX2), SAMe@400, Saw, etc...

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I'm on week 6, day 2, and loving it; gained 1/2 inch on my arms in the first 5 weeks... saw all of my lifts go up, set a huge PR in squats, no sides cept for the dryness before I stopped the E-form... definitely increased vascularity, hardness, strength, endurance... have maintained my weight at 235, and haven't been being strict re: my diet (needed a break) but try not to go too crazy... just making sure to keep my protein up and not have too many "bad" carbs... even so have lost some fat... so Epi is definitely a good recomp compound... started seeing more results ~ weeks 4-5... when I added the Halo...

Either way, I don't see Epi by itself doing a whole lot in a short time even at 60... I have to think it's the Prop that's the main mover in the 3 week stack... I'll definitely run something like this (if we don't get hit with a Ban) in the future when I have more $$...

GotTest · 10-09-2007, 01:51 PM

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Either way, I don't see Epi by itself doing a whole lot in a short time even at 60... I have to think it's the Prop that's the main mover in the 3 week stack... I'll definitely run something like this (if we don't get hit with a Ban) in the future when I have more $$...

I really enjoyed the solo Epi run @ 40mg/day.
Great strength, good size, and moderate sides.

The Lethargy was the biggest thing I had to fight through. I couldn't imagine 50mg/day for longer than 4 weeks.

What are some sides with the Prop.?

Between Prop and Epi, which would guys run everyday and which to pulse on WO days?

muad33b · 10-09-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GotTest

I really enjoyed the solo Epi run @ 40mg/day.
Great strength, good size, and moderate sides.

The Lethargy was the biggest thing I had to fight through. I couldn't imagine 50mg/day for longer than 4 weeks.

What are some sides with the Prop.?

Between Prop and Epi, which would guys run everyday and which to pulse on WO days?

Lethargy; what's that? IN all seriousness, I've never really noticed an issue with that on any PH/PS... I guess I'm always tired an lazy!

I also never notice a loss of libido;

guess I'm always horny too!

What "flavor" of Epi did you run?

As for the Prop, besides elevated BP, I don't have any sides to report, and I've gone as high as 120... although others have reported some effects in the bedroom with this stuff... both of these compounds are virtually side-free from my experience.