Liquigels cycle then h-drol cycle?

[camarokyle]

(originally posted this in the wrong forum I think)

New to the forum, but I've been lifting for the past 4-5 years consistently. I'm 25, about 215lbs, 6'2, not sure about bf% but if it's any indication, I have a size 33-34 inch waist. Squat about 350, db press 90lbs, rldl about 315. I've done some natty test booster cycles before (mainly with Activate), but no ph cycles. Since this will be my first ph cycle, I am going to start with CEL Hdrol because it is mild. However, due to the length of the entire cycle and the winter vacation coming up (not sure about gym access back home), I am considering postponing that cycle and going with Liquigels first since it will be shorter and no PCT is required. I know I won't see the same gains, but with a clean diet and hard-ass work in the gym, I figure it might help add some LBM. You guys think it would be worth the money to try a liquigel cycle, then follow it up with a Hdrol cycle starting around the first of January? Would I need a break in between the LG cycle and the start of my Hdrol cycle? And just for reference, here is what I'm planning for the Hdrol cycle in case ya'll have any opinions or comments.

Pre-Load (1-2 weeks): either Hawthorne berry + Milk thistle or Cycle Support (depending on costs)

Cycle: Hdrol: 50/50/75/75/100 (100 is depending on how well I respond to the 75mg)
Cycle Support: 2 scoops per day (1 am 1 pm)

PCT: Nolva: 20/20/10/10
Reversitol: according to bottle instructions
Will start creatine again
Possibly Lean Xtreme and maybe a natty test booster (Activate or Bio Forge)

Basics: Fish oil, BCAAs, Whey, Multi-Vit, CLA

So what do ya'll think? How's my Hdrol cycle look? Any recommendations or opinions? I've been researching for the past month or so and couldn't find any concrete opinion as to whether Reversitol would be sufficient for PCT and since I was able to get my hands on Nolva, I figured it's better to be safe. Also, should I even give the Liquigels a try or is it a waste of money and I should just wait until January to jump on the Hdrol cycle?

Thanks!

[tommyking73]

Originally Posted by camarokyle

(originally posted this in the wrong forum I think)

New to the forum, but I've been lifting for the past 4-5 years consistently. I'm 25, about 215lbs, 6'2, not sure about bf% but if it's any indication, I have a size 33-34 inch waist. Squat about 350, db press 90lbs, rldl about 315. I've done some natty test booster cycles before (mainly with Activate), but no ph cycles. Since this will be my first ph cycle, I am going to start with CEL Hdrol because it is mild. However, due to the length of the entire cycle and the winter vacation coming up (not sure about gym access back home), I am considering postponing that cycle and going with Liquigels first since it will be shorter and no PCT is required. I know I won't see the same gains, but with a clean diet and hard-ass work in the gym, I figure it might help add some LBM. You guys think it would be worth the money to try a liquigel cycle, then follow it up with a Hdrol cycle starting around the first of January? Would I need a break in between the LG cycle and the start of my Hdrol cycle? And just for reference, here is what I'm planning for the Hdrol cycle in case ya'll have any opinions or comments.

Pre-Load (1-2 weeks): either Hawthorne berry + Milk thistle or Cycle Support (depending on costs)

Cycle: Hdrol: 50/50/75/75/100 (100 is depending on how well I respond to the 75mg)
Cycle Support: 2 scoops per day (1 am 1 pm)

PCT: Nolva: 20/20/10/10
Reversitol: according to bottle instructions
Will start creatine again
Possibly Lean Xtreme and maybe a natty test booster (Activate or Bio Forge)

Basics: Fish oil, BCAAs, Whey, Multi-Vit, CLA

So what do ya'll think? How's my Hdrol cycle look? Any recommendations or opinions? I've been researching for the past month or so and couldn't find any concrete opinion as to whether Reversitol would be sufficient for PCT and since I was able to get my hands on Nolva, I figured it's better to be safe. Also, should I even give the Liquigels a try or is it a waste of money and I should just wait until January to jump on the Hdrol cycle?

Thanks!

My opinion is Fuck Haladrol Liquigels......the only ingredient in that that Might and i mean Might have any real contribution to muscle growth is the Arachidonic Acid.....and you can even get better results with protien, Bcaa's, and Creatine rather than that.

Go for the H-drol ...cause if u dont...you will be sorry you spent 56 bucks on that instead of 29 bucks for the H-drol.

And No No No Tamoxifen needed for H-drol....save it for harsher steroids.
Reversitiol will B fine.......My opinion is any OTC PCT is fine.
No over kill needed for this cycle.

[jslep]

Originally Posted by tommyking73

My opinion is Fuck Haladrol Liquigels......the only ingredient in that that Might and i mean Might have any real contribution to muscle growth is the Arachidonic Acid.....and you can even get better results with protien, Bcaa's, and Creatine rather than that.

Go for the H-drol ...cause if u dont...you will be sorry you spent 56 bucks on that instead of 29 bucks for the H-drol.

And No No No Tamoxifen needed for H-drol....save it for harsher steroids.
Reversitiol will B fine.......My opinion is any OTC PCT is fine.
No over kill needed for this cycle.

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[camarokyle]

Right on, sounds good. The liquigels are out and I'll save the Nolva. At least I'll have it in case I need it if something comes up. So ya'll think the Reversitol will be good enough if I add, say, Bio Forge and maybe some LX after the 2nd week of PCT? Man I can't wait, getting pumped just thinking about it.

-Kyle

[layin frame]

Originally Posted by camarokyle

Right on, sounds good. The liquigels are out and I'll save the Nolva. At least I'll have it in case I need it if something comes up. So ya'll think the Reversitol will be good enough if I add, say, Bio Forge and maybe some LX after the 2nd week of PCT? Man I can't wait, getting pumped just thinking about it.

-Kyle

bioforge works damn well as a natty test booster...and about the nolva, keep it on hand no matter what, every responds diff. to ph cycles and bitch tits are the last thing you want haha...but h drol is way mild and your gunna see some nice gains if you clean your diet up and go at it in the gym....but all in all sounds like a good cycle, keep us updated brotha

[tommyking73]

Originally Posted by layin frame

bioforge works damn well as a natty test booster...and about the nolva, keep it on hand no matter what, every responds diff. to ph cycles and bitch tits are the last thing you want haha...but h drol is way mild and your gunna see some nice gains if you clean your diet up and go at it in the gym....but all in all sounds like a good cycle, keep us updated brotha

yes i agree with keeping nolva on hand just in case, however, the chance of estrogen conversion from H-drol causing gyno is about the same chances of seeing the second comming of Christ.....and thats if u believe in the First to begin with.

[myroslav]

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