Suggestions on my next cycle! - Page 2

PUSHINW8 · 10-09-2007, 03:52 PM

I was thinking about running Bold at 600mg ED for 2 weeks, then incorporating something else into it... never taken it before. I weigh 180lbs so i figured 600mg ED was a good starting point.

solomon1979 · 10-09-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by B-natural

whoa bulk 4ad from uk, interesting, very interesting sol...
didn't think it was still available

I've got 25 grams of it and 4-OHT sitting in my closet at the moment. I also have a few of the bottles from international supplements as well. They are both legit

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solomon1979 · 10-09-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PUSHINW8

I was thinking about running Bold at 600mg ED for 2 weeks, then incorporating something else into it... never taken it before. I weigh 180lbs so i figured 600mg ED was a good starting point.

I weigh around that amount too. Trust me when I say that 600mg of Bold is nothing. You might start feeling it after 5 weeks. Its such an overrated product. Have you seen spectacular gains from anyone besides Voodoo?

PUSHINW8 · 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by solomon1979

An anti e on cycle isn't necessary IMO. If you are really concerned then formestane would be an option. DHT conversion is minimal, but saw palmetto on cycle would be advisable. BTW, 4-AD is a prohormone to testosterone. 800-1200mg ed is ideal. He could just order the bulk powder from the UK and make enough transdermal 4-ad for a couple of cycles. If he's concerned by estrogen woes, then he could also add bulk formestane to the transdermal carrier. Is it worth it? Yes. There's almost nothing worth adding to Bold that's readily available. IMO, Bold is the most overrated product available at the present. Most gains made with it are because of additional agents that were employed during the cycle.

Sounds like solid advice. Ive never messed with the idea of making transdermals, I think I might research it. I saw a couple of impressive logs online for the Bold, and yes they were stacking it with something else.. some of the logs were "too impressive" i.e. people were gaining 20lbs in a month and losing fat..

muad33b · 10-09-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PUSHINW8

Well yea, not during all of the games, but once or twice during the cycle. The temptation is overwhelming when you go up to OSU for the games.. (when your team is #3 in the country, sorry gator fans :p )

If it's only 1-2 beers twice during the cycle, then go ahead and add a methyl... but if it's really getting drunk, then do yourself a favor, and wait until you're ready to not drink for the 8 weeks of cycle + PCT...

solomon1979 · 10-09-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PUSHINW8

Sounds like solid advice. Ive never messed with the idea of making transdermals, I think I might research it. I saw a couple of impressive logs online for the Bold, and yes they were stacking it with something else.. some of the logs were "too impressive" i.e. people were gaining 20lbs in a month and losing fat..

Yeah, you won't gain twenty pounds on Bold and Testabolin, Bold and Epistane, or Bold and M1,4ADD; unless you have 20lbs left that you could have gained naturally with proper diet and exercise.

PUSHINW8 · 10-09-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by muad33b

If it's only 1-2 beers twice during the cycle, then go ahead and add a methyl... but if it's really getting drunk, then do yourself a favor, and wait until you're ready to not drink for the 8 weeks of cycle + PCT...

It would definately be a lot more convinent to run a methyl alongside the Bold since I have some Halodrol-50 sitting in the cupboard, but im leaning towards Epi do to the fact I ran an H-Drol cycle in the summer (although im not too sure about the potency of the clone I took).

solomon1979 · 10-09-2007, 04:04 PM

BTW, I ran Bold at 600mg for 50 days along with Ergomax and then Methyl E and only netted 12lbs on a dirty bulk. Most of the gain was fat and water. I can assure you that 20lbs of lean muscle is about as realistic as winning the lottery.

PUSHINW8 · 10-09-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by solomon1979

I've got 25 grams of it and 4-OHT sitting in my closet at the moment. I also have a few of the bottles from international supplements as well. They are both legit

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Decisions decisions. Maybe I'll just run some 4-AD straight up.. with a log of course..

solomon1979 · 10-09-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PUSHINW8

Decisions decisions. Maybe I'll just run some 4-AD straight up.. with a log of course..

If you decide to run it, then run it with a stacking partner as well. Best idea's

Epithio
1,4AD
Halo