Keeping Gains Post Cycle

[Rucker]

Dear LeanBulk Members,

Keeping gains Post Cycle with the Natural Anabolic Fenugreek

What’s one of the most difficult things about coming off a cycle, even when you have proper post cycle therapy?



Maintaining the size and strength gains.



If you just came off of anabolic steroids then you probably saw some fairly impressive muscle gains. When dropping from such a powerful muscle building steroid to nothing at all it is nearly impossible to maintain these gains. Most post cycle therapy regimes don’t include products to maintain muscle gains, only products to rejuvenate natural testosterone production. It is nearly impossible to preserve these types of gains without proper muscle building supplements. Fenugreek extract has been shown to mimic the effects of anabolic steroids and free up bound testosterone but is a natural ingredient that is in no way suppressive to testosterone production.



What this means is that someone could supplement fenugreek extract while on post cycle therapy to help maintain, and possibly increase, muscle gains while in a less than ideal physical and mental state for building muscle.



The only fenugreek extract that has ever been proven to enhance muscle gain and free test levels in humans is Testofen (standardized for 50% fenusides). (1) Phyto-Testosterone includes a full clinically effective dose of 800mg.



Keep your gains during post cycle therapy with Phyto-Testosterone – a natural muscle building supplement.





Jim Benvie,
Primordial Performance Marketing


Questions?


Phone – 1-800-568-2924
Email - info@primordialperformance.com
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References – 1. Human Clinical Trial

Gencor Pacific, Inc. (2006)

[Rucker]

Has anyone tried this as a way to keep gains post cycle?

[BigP]

fenugreek wont do much......just increase libido from my experience

[Rucker]

Originally Posted by BigP

fenugreek wont do much......just increase libido from my experience

Some forms of fenugreek are weak. However ours includes Testofen (standardized for 50% fenusides), which has been shown to have beneficial effects on muscle gains. Do you know what form you used?

[BigP]

Originally Posted by Rucker

Some forms of fenugreek are weak. However ours includes Testofen (standardized for 50% fenusides), which has been shown to have beneficial effects on muscle gains. Do you know what form you used?

i used the herb fenugreek, numerous brands.

when u say muscle gains, that can mean a wide assortment of possibilities dude. its like saying creatine has a postive effect on muscle gains, but there are catalysts. such as diet, training and hormone levels prior.

what would happen if someone took ur fenugreek post cycle because u SAID it created muscle gains? however their estrogen was through the roof, their test was in the shitter, and cortisol is holding on to bodyfat.........

would you say fenugreek would have an effect then?

i just have an issue with supplement companies telling people to take "all natural" supplements post cycle when u need the opposite.

a better idea would be to market ur supplement for libido and sexual health, not muscle gains.

[Rucker]

Originally Posted by BigP

i used the herb fenugreek, numerous brands.

when u say muscle gains, that can mean a wide assortment of possibilities dude. its like saying creatine has a postive effect on muscle gains, but there are catalysts. such as diet, training and hormone levels prior.

Diet, training and hormone levels have much more effect than supplements. I'm not here to argue that. I would suggest that people have all of these in check before they begin any type of supplementation.

Originally Posted by BigP

what would happen if someone took ur fenugreek post cycle because u SAID it created muscle gains? however their estrogen was through the roof, their test was in the shitter, and cortisol is holding on to bodyfat.........

would you say fenugreek would have an effect then?

I have not seen any data to say whether fenugreek affects cortisol or estrogen levels, but research has shown that it raises free T levels, increases strength and reduces bodyfat.

Originally Posted by BigP

i just have an issue with supplement companies telling people to take "all natural" supplements post cycle when u need the opposite.

a better idea would be to market ur supplement for libido and sexual health, not muscle gains.

I don't suggest that people go all natural post cycle. I also don't suggest that people use this product as pct. I suggest that people use this product in addition to proper PCT.

[BigP]

Originally Posted by Rucker

Diet, training and hormone levels have much more effect than supplements. I'm not here to argue that. I would suggest that people have all of these in check before they begin any type of supplementation.



I have not seen any data to say whether fenugreek affects cortisol or estrogen levels, but research has shown that it raises free T levels, increases strength and reduces bodyfat.




I don't suggest that people go all natural post cycle. I also don't suggest that people use this product as pct. I suggest that people use this product in addition to proper PCT.

ok cool, just wanted to clarify that for people reading.

would u say that nettle root has the same effect then? cuz that too has shown to raise free test.

[steam]

Originally Posted by Rucker

Has anyone tried this as a way to keep gains post cycle?

i could log it for you guys...

[Rucker]

Originally Posted by BigP

ok cool, just wanted to clarify that for people reading.

would u say that nettle root has the same effect then? cuz that too has shown to raise free test.

I personally haven't read the studies on nettle root so I wouldn't feel comfortable saying yes or no to that.

[Rucker]

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