Getting My Competitive Edge with CEL! (M1,4ADD and P-Mag)

[escholar05]

Day 2-August 13-Hams/Calves

Supplements:
M1,4ADD-30 mg over 4 doses- 730am, 1130am, 330pm, 7pm
400mg SAMe-upon waking
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout

Hams/Calves

Deadlifts-315x6, 365x6, 405x3, 405x3

High Stance Leg Press-10x720, 10x720, 10x810, 8x900

Standing Calf Raises-110x15, 140x12, 150x10

Prone Hamstring Curls-110x10, 130x10, 140x10

Leg Press Calf Press-540x10, 540x10, 630x10

DB Lunges-8ea x 45's, 8ea x 45's, 20ea x bodyweight

Thoughts-
Wasn't feelin as squirrely as normal on deadlift, so I stayed at 405 today. I've been doin alot of hamstring stuff other than regular deadlifts for the last few weeks, so my numbers went down a bit as a result.

Not feeling anything yet, I've upper my water intake to about 1.5-2gal a day, it really helps prevent sides for me it seems, so I'm getting in the habit before I have to. Welcome back getting up in the middle of the night to pee.

[GotTest]

Originally Posted by escholar05

Lol, the only difference is a shave, a tan, oh, and like 20lbs.

I will keep that in mind with the AI's, I'm looking forward to formestane and seeing what it can do. I have trouble with joints and libido with ATD at 75mg, but once I get down to 50 it's all good.

Yeah man, the 20lbs is noticable. I was just bustin' you on the shave and tan.
I get the same effect from ATD. I usually recover fine with 50mg/day tapered down.
You'll LOVE Form!

BTW...Good idea with SAMe on cycle. I like to run this with my methyl cycles too. Try to dose about 4 hours away from PH...Doc's recommendation.

[escholar05]

Originally Posted by GotTest

Yeah man, the 20lbs is noticable. <-----Is that a fat joke?

I was just bustin' you on the shave and tan.
I get the same effect from ATD. I usually recover fine with 50mg/day tapered down.
You'll LOVE Form!

BTW...Good idea with SAMe on cycle. I like to run this with my methyl cycles too. Try to dose about 4 hours away from PH...Doc's recommendation.

^---see above, haha

I was taking the SAMe first thing in the am because it says on an empty stomach...would you reccomend taking it with Cycle Assist right before bed with my bedtime shake?

What do you think of my overall dosing schedule?

[GQ-Nemesis]

nice cycle .. looking forward to seeing the results

good luck

[GotTest]

Originally Posted by escholar05

^---see above, haha

I was taking the SAMe first thing in the am because it says on an empty stomach...would you reccomend taking it with Cycle Assist right before bed with my bedtime shake?

What do you think of my overall dosing schedule?

LOL...Fat!?...Dude those pics make me want to schedule a liposuction

SAMe first thing in the AM is perfect. I would take the 4 caps of Cycle Assist with it (if there is no stomach discomfort). I'm a firm believer in the 4 hour rule, so try your best to space the SAMe/Cycle Assist 4 hours away from your PH dose.
I personally wouldn't dose another 4 caps at night. As long as your taking 400mg of SAMe, just stick with the 4caps of CA in the morning. If you drop the SAMe, take 8/day.

[escholar05]

Originally Posted by GotTest

LOL...Fat!?...Dude those pics make me want to schedule a liposuction

SAMe first thing in the AM is perfect. I would take the 4 caps of Cycle Assist with it (if there is no stomach discomfort). I'm a firm believer in the 4 hour rule, so try your best to space the SAMe/Cycle Assist 4 hours away from your PH dose.
I personally wouldn't dose another 4 caps at night. As long as your taking 400mg of SAMe, just stick with the 4caps of CA in the morning. If you drop the SAMe, take 8/day.

Haha, I was talking more about the pics from this morning, it's hard to look at show day pics and then those, but oh well, progress isn't made staying ripped.

How would you dose 4 caps of M1,4add, 1 tab SAMe and a serving or two of cycle assist? I have how I've been doing it in my daily post, but I'm curious to how you would do it and certainly open to ideas.

[B-natural]

Keep the ATD at 50, and just aim to keep the dose up for an extra week, i.e. if you were going to drop to 25 in wk 4, keep it at 50, then taper down. I'd be sure to add in some ZMA for pct, it may help on cycle as well.

[GotTest]

Originally Posted by B-natural

Keep the ATD at 50, and just aim to keep the dose up for an extra week, i.e. if you were going to drop to 25 in wk 4, keep it at 50, then taper down. I'd be sure to add in some ZMA for pct, it may help on cycle as well.

Yes, I generally run ATD this way too.

[GotTest]

Originally Posted by escholar05

How would you dose 4 caps of M1,4add, 1 tab SAMe and a serving or two of cycle assist? I have how I've been doing it in my daily post, but I'm curious to how you would do it and certainly open to ideas.

If I'm running Liver supps on cycle I do it this way (if popping 4 caps/day)...
Dose the Liver Supp first thing in the AM (usually 5:30AM), then dose AROUND this time frame: 9:30/12:00/2:00/4:30(I workout at 5pm).

I have also double dosed(2caps) FIRST dosing and PREWO dosing as well(cycle dependent).
I CAN NOT do this with Trens.

[escholar05]

Day 3-August 14-Arms

Supplements:
M1,4ADD-30 mg over 4 doses- 830am, 1230am, 430pm, 8pm
400mg SAMe-upon waking
Controlled Labs Orange Triad, 4g Fish Oil, 1.1g Hawthorne Berry-After Breakfast, another serving of Orange Triad after lunch
Universal Intra-Aid and Storm-Intra-workout

Meals

1st
1 scoop dymatize elite while cooking, 3 eggs, 3 pieces of toast, banana

2nd-PWO shake
2 scoops dymatize elite, 1 cup oats, banana

3rd
Chipotle Steak Burrito

4th
MetRX Big100 Colossal

5th
10oz chicken breast, 3/4 cup brown rice(before cooking), broccoli

6th-before bed
1 scoop dymatize elite, 1.5 cups cottage cheese, 3tbsp peanut butter, 1-1.5 cups chocolate milk

Arms

Close Grip Decline Bench-225x8, 255x8, 275x6, 315x7

Pullups(2 sets neutral, 2 sets underhand)-4x8

V-Bar Cable Pressdowns-10x205(stack), 10x205, 8x205, drop set of 175x8

Straight BB Curls-8x85, 6x105, 8x85

Tricep Bench Dips-10x90, 10x115, 10x115

Heavy Hammer Curls-8x55, 8x60, 8x60

Reverse EZ Bar Curls-10x60, 8x80, 8x80

Thoughts-
Arms were almost painfully pumped today. I'm starting to get some of the ramped up glycogen synthesis, because my blood sugar bottomed out a bit after my workout today. Also I think the pump I got today was part of that as well. Appetite is going up as well.