CEL H-drol

swolloniron · 03-27-2008, 09:01 PM

My recent/current exp with CEL H-drol.

LOT #: 060422 Exp: 11/09

Wrapping up 3rd week (20th day today). Dosed at 100mg (50mg BID) for 20 days so far (going to run for 30).

Results: NOTHING! No pump, no fullness, no anything, no strength changes, no body composition changes, now weight gains/loss, NOTHING that would make me remotely think that this is a PH much less even an effective supplement of any kind.

Really annoyed, bc I have a lot of their products.

**brand77** · 03-27-2008, 10:20 PM

Weird. I just wrapped up a month of CEL H-drol at only 50mg/day and was pleased with my results:
+ 7lbs. The exp on my bottle was 12-2009. I don't see the lot #. Patrick Arnold's company is now testing CEL's raws for them after the whole M1,4ADD fiasco, so I wouldn't think you would have gotten a bunk product. If it means anything I saw most, if not all, of my results during the last 1.5 weeks. Lets hope you are in the same boat.

swolloniron · 03-27-2008, 11:23 PM

Thanks for the reply. Thats why I posted.

I bought these 5+ months ago I would guess....it was when NP first carried their line and was having a fire sale. Not too sure on exact purchase, but know it has been long before PA got involved (although I did run some of their crappy 14add also).

Well, I have run out of the CEL stuff (I had one full and one 75% bottle) and started on EST Hemadrol. Hopefully I will see something in the next 10 days....if I do, I may continue at 50-100mg for another week or two (40+days).

Only other time I ran halo was almost 2 years ago and it was the original gaspari halo. MUCH different. Gained 7-10lbs in the first 2 weeks and 17lbs total in 4 weeks. This is NOTHING compared to that. Now I heard that the original halo had PP mixed in. Any truth to this? That may explain the differences (and the strength I gained).

**brand77** · 03-28-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by swolloniron

Thanks for the reply. Thats why I posted.

I bought these 5+ months ago I would guess....it was when NP first carried their line and was having a fire sale. Not too sure on exact purchase, but know it has been long before PA got involved (although I did run some of their crappy 14add also).

Well, I have run out of the CEL stuff (I had one full and one 75% bottle) and started on EST Hemadrol. Hopefully I will see something in the next 10 days....if I do, I may continue at 50-100mg for another week or two (40+days).

Only other time I ran halo was almost 2 years ago and it was the original gaspari halo. MUCH different. Gained 7-10lbs in the first 2 weeks and 17lbs total in 4 weeks. This is NOTHING compared to that. Now I heard that the original halo had PP mixed in. Any truth to this? That may explain the differences (and the strength I gained).

Yep, that's true. The original run of Gaspari Halodrol was a mix of the halo active and the active in Phera.

mad dog · 03-28-2008, 01:57 AM

Whats up BRAND when is PA going to come up w the results[test results]

swolloniron · 03-28-2008, 08:02 AM

oh forgot to mention my twig and berries are shrunk a little, and I have that "uncomfortable" i get in my back common to PH use....so I guess there is SOMETHING in there...maybe more DHEA, or just underdosed halo. no way of knowing and this is pure speculation based on my subjective feedback.

swolloniron · 03-28-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by brand77

Yep, that's true. The original run of Gaspari Halodrol was a mix of the halo active and the active in Phera.

Crap - If I would have thought of that sooner (aka start of cycle) I would have ran 50mg halo/20mg PP or something...now too late.

usf97j4x4 · 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swolloniron

Thanks for the reply. Thats why I posted.

I bought these 5+ months ago I would guess....it was when NP first carried their line and was having a fire sale. Not too sure on exact purchase, but know it has been long before PA got involved (although I did run some of their crappy 14add also).

Well, I have run out of the CEL stuff (I had one full and one 75% bottle) and started on EST Hemadrol. Hopefully I will see something in the next 10 days....if I do, I may continue at 50-100mg for another week or two (40+days).

Only other time I ran halo was almost 2 years ago and it was the original gaspari halo. MUCH different. Gained 7-10lbs in the first 2 weeks and 17lbs total in 4 weeks. This is NOTHING compared to that. Now I heard that the original halo had PP mixed in. Any truth to this? That may explain the differences (and the strength I gained).

Apples and oranges. The original Gaspari product is a totally different animal. I'm sorry you didn't get anything off your cycle, that is unusual for our products. Keep in mind H-Drol does not normally "kick in" until week 3. Also, a few people just do not respond to the compound. I will run your batch number to be sure your bottle was legit just in case.

By the way, we send our batches for additional testing to PA to avoid the drama. We do this in addition to independant lab testing. If you don't understand the M1,4ADD situation let me shed some light. It is an extremely difficult raw to get ahold of. We weren't even going to put out a new batch because we could not find any that tested out. We finally did find one that tested out, or so we thought, so we released a limited run. Turns out that the lab made a mistake as there was no benchmark sample of true M1,4ADD to compare it against. It tested out to be M1,4ADD when it was actually DHEA. We did replace bottles with M-drol/P-Plex/H-Drol at no cost

**brand77** · 03-28-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mad dog

Whats up BRAND when is PA going to come up w the results[test results]

Hey Mad dog, PA tested H-drol a while back and said it tested out good as the correct compound.

kruz · 03-28-2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swolloniron

My recent/current exp with CEL H-drol.

LOT #: 060422 Exp: 11/09

Wrapping up 3rd week (20th day today). Dosed at 100mg (50mg BID) for 20 days so far (going to run for 30).

Results: NOTHING! No pump, no fullness, no anything, no strength changes, no body composition changes, now weight gains/loss, NOTHING that would make me remotely think that this is a PH much less even an effective supplement of any kind.

Really annoyed, bc I have a lot of their products.

That sucks man. I'm just about into week 3 of my CEL H-drol and loving it. Up 5-9lbs ( depending on when I weigh myself ) so far! Only been on 25mg for the first 3-4days then 50mg ed. Just adding in some Epistane to the mix but thats another story.

I dont think the original Halodrol had Phera in it dit it?? I thought it had DHT like Turinabol does?