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Old 06-10-2008, 01:36 PM   #11
 
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Don't want to thread jack here, but I have to comment on this one:

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raise that dose to 80mg son
80mg?! Ow, my joints hurt just thinking about that... I'm running 50mg/day (no ramp; hell with it) for a 6-7 week job here and have some joint pains even making sure I'm getting plenty of water, fish oils, and gluc/cond... I've gone as high as 60 before, but that killed my joints... could've been the E-form I was running as well for giggles.... no E = no water in da joints... I weigh 252 right now and have extra epi laying around...hmm, maybe I'll take this to up to 60 this week and see how it goes.. if it doesn't hurt too much I might try 70 just for giggles... but even so, 80??? how did that work out for you? no prolactin/joint/etc issues at that high dose?
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Don't want to thread jack here, but I have to comment on this one:



80mg?! Ow, my joints hurt just thinking about that... I'm running 50mg/day (no ramp; hell with it) for a 6-7 week job here and have some joint pains even making sure I'm getting plenty of water, fish oils, and gluc/cond... I've gone as high as 60 before, but that killed my joints... could've been the E-form I was running as well for giggles.... no E = no water in da joints... I weigh 252 right now and have extra epi laying around...hmm, maybe I'll take this to up to 60 this week and see how it goes.. if it doesn't hurt too much I might try 70 just for giggles... but even so, 80??? how did that work out for you? no prolactin/joint/etc issues at that high dose?
I've never taken it at that dose, I just want to see it done. I'm not worried about joint pain - i'm on over a gram of test a week. I would be willing to do it, but I got better things like drol and dbol laying around lol.
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I've never taken it at that dose, I just want to see it done. I'm not worried about joint pain - i'm on over a gram of test a week. I would be willing to do it, but I got better things like drol and dbol laying around lol.
I feel ya; I stay away from the dark side... just a legality thing - we both know that test is safer then epi - I just want to be able to say everything I ever took was OTC.

Thinking about it, prolly not the best thing to just "throw out there" in a log where the OP's indicated this is his first cycle... I mean shame on him if he listens and all, but not exactly great advice.. that dosage is definitely an advanced PH cycle in my book.

That said, I'll up my dose and let ya know how it goes... hmm I guess if I do that here, then this is officially a thread jack now... sorry "goaussiego" - although it looks like your cycle is over... how is PCT going?
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:44 AM   #14
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Give it hell. I don' think you need the flax though daily on cycle
probably what but no matter if my goals either cutting or bulking i like to always have fish/flax oils which i just have caps of to make it easy. it keeps my skin much clearer, makes me feel better during the day and anything to help sore joints is nice

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14lbs in 4 wks thats a nice total.You should keep almost all of it after pct.Good job!
thanks mmowry its actually 14lbs in 3 weeks atm, still on last week of 4 now

and yeah next time i try this i would like to try 40mg all the way through and theres no way i'd need to go higher that that lol, you really do feel great on this stuff all through the day and training. am wondering next cycle to use epi again or try something else im thinking h-drol so my body doesn't get used to the same thing or does it not really matter??
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End of cycle

16-6-08

Finished my 4 weeks at 20 30 40 40 just started my PCT today. strangely today felt like the best workout i've had for the last couple of weeks on superdump today workouts in the 3rd and 4th week just got more tiring, even though my recovery between sets was through the roof, lifting 12 reps each set till failure and fine to go next set after a minute and so on. did chest and back today and felt pretty good and pumped as ever still. Gains as follows are measurements as off yest/today first day of Pct so ill have to see how much of i keep.

Starting weight Weight

92kg 202lbs 100kg 220lbs

Staring stats Stats

R arm 16" 16.75"
L arm 15.75" 16.5"
Chest 43" 45"
Waist 37.5" 37.5"
R leg 25.5" 27"
L leg 24.5" 26"
R calf 15" 15.5"
L calf 15.5" 16"
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PCT for the week

6oxo extreme x10 day
Powerfull x4 day
Mass FX x4 day

Superpump - pre workout
Cellmass - post workout with bcaas, glutamine and WMS

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Very nice total (18lbs).I think thats the most Ive seen on a 4wk run.great job and good luck with pct.
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2nd day of pct today, again had a killer workout strength right up, trained arms and abs and oh yeah my arms have grown some more
finaly got 17" arms measured today after workout 17"(r) and 16.75"(l) respectively weight still 220lbs
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Nice bro! It's gotta feel great keeping the gains man!
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30-6-08

Week 3 pct

weight still at 220
chest still 45" arms have grown to 17.25" (R) and 17" (L) workouts are crap, so sore during and my recover have been shiit. have not been getting good or long sleep and fighting to still do every workout. PCT sucks haha i just wanna try another cycle