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Old 06-23-2008, 01:13 PM   #121
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For a real "cut"
I think you need to give yourself a 12-24 week timeline.
Not a 4-6 week designer cycle.
I agree...I'm considering just upping my calories for the last 2 weeks.
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:20 PM   #122
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Mine hasn't been as dramatic as I was expecting, either.
But the benefits have been:
1) pretty effortless muscle maintenance and maybe a little growth. My cut last year without anabolics I felt like I wasted away a lot of muscle.
2) mood has been pretty good. Again, my previous cut made me not such a great person to be around.

I agree and relate with XJ:
1) Those foods above don't belong in your diet right now.
2) My strength hasn't gone up, but rather maintained. I do have brief moments when I feel strong and I can just go for it, so I take those when they come.
1 yes. The scale hasn't moved since the end of my 2nd weeks, but according to my measurements I have gained 4-5 pounds, and lost 10-12. Problem is, I could proally lose another 10-12 :(

2 no, I feel pretty irritable; I blame the Trenadrol and the low to no carbs...but generally by 2-3 week I get better, but not the case this time...
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I agree...I'm considering just upping my calories for the last 2 weeks.
You are a lean cat. but I hate bailing on a diet. Mentally it sets up for failure later on down the road. I would just watch the type of carbs and up my fish oil.
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You are a lean cat. but I hate bailing on a diet. Mentally it sets up for failure later on down the road. I would just watch the type of carbs and up my fish oil.
Cool...thanks for all the feedback fellas!
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:07 PM   #125
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wil....what's your plan through pct? continue cutting or just maintain until your natty hormone levels are back?
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I was just thinking about that...not sure. I may just stay at 2000 kcal throughout PCT as well.
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I was just thinking about that...not sure. I may just stay at 2000 kcal throughout PCT as well.
Maybe you should try carb cycling???

And try what all the cool guys are doing: Destroying Fat - War Room Strategies to Maximize Fat Loss
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Wil, looking at the new pics, there's a noticable difference so far. Are you sure your measuremens are accurate because you look bigger, leaner, and have a bit more seperation.

I like to play devil's advocate so I'll go completely against the grain with this suggestion. After your workout tonight, go to a buffet and eat till you can't breathe. Have a mega cheat meal and then clean things up again tomorrow. The cheat meal almost never fails to rejuvenate things when I'm in a rut.

Just think, your body is under a lot of physical and psychological stress from cutting and double that up with the stress from the anabolics. The cheat meal just might be the key to getting back on track.

You'll be mad at yourself later on if you make a knee jerk reaction to bulk in the middle of a cut, just because you're in a sticking point at the moment. Trouble shoot before you bail IMO.
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Cheat meals do help; however, I presumed Wil was already cheating, because he is a dirty cheat...
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wow the numbers didnt really change??? not flamming
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