06-02-2008, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by roadcruzr1969
I hope it goes well ROIDER... remember what happened to lyle alzedo. Why don't u ask him how he fared. oh no wait he's DEAD. dead from using steroids. I hope it's worth it.
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This is 'supposed' to be a friend of mine. Disregard his poor sense of humor. His mother dropped him on his head... a few times... last week! 
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06-02-2008, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by muad33b
some comments:
1) I would advise that you make that maybe a 400mg/day, and/or add in a simple cheap ATD (like inhibit-e) tapered down; I like having both. Despite the fact that P.C.S. get's a lot of support on A.M., our good resident doctor (D_ / dinoiii / Dana) will confirm that the science on it is weak, so I would not recommend that you run this as a standalone for your anti-e on a pct.
2) I don't see a nice test booster in there; Blue-UP is cheap, Primal Male is looking pretty mighty if you wanna spend a little more.
3) Looks like you got the cortisol control going with the LX2, and you may already know this, but our resident dr. recommends that you start this on week 3 of your pct, as cortisol is suppressed for the first couple of weeks anyhow.
Other then that, looks like a nice cycle you got planned here... Epi and prop are a fun combo... 
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Thanks for the advice. I do have some ATD around. I just thought with the anti-e properties of Epi and Prop, the PCS would suffice.
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Training the body helps a little, but godly living helps in every way. Godly living has the promise of life now and in the world to come. - 1 Timothy 4:8
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06-02-2008, 05:13 PM
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OK, just took my 2nd dose of Epi along with 50mg of DHEA, Fish Oil and a Multi.
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Training the body helps a little, but godly living helps in every way. Godly living has the promise of life now and in the world to come. - 1 Timothy 4:8
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06-02-2008, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by thewilman
Thanks for the advice. I do have some ATD around. I just thought with the anti-e properties of Epi and Prop, the PCS would suffice.
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Yea, there are certainly anti-e properties of Epi, and prop includes a little anti-e, the problem is they are both androgenic and suppressive, and you don't run those into your pct, so you need something that's got your back for an anti-e in pct, and I just wouldn't bet on PCS. If you want to experiment, you could run just the PCS and a healthy (~600mg) dose of I3C - that way if the PCS doesn't stop the E, the I3C should keep it from turning into "bad" E. Not a super suppressive cycle, so not a bad way to go; it's pretty cheep at that dose here:
NSI I3C (Indole-3-Carbinol) with Broccoli Extract -- 120 Capsules - Vitacost
And that brand is on D_'s approved list... now, we just need the TF/LB store to start carrying this stuff.
Oh, and now that I realize he was joking, I get the intended humor... it's almost funny...  ...problem is I've read too many posts over at AM that were talking like this seriously.
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06-02-2008, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by muad33b
Yea, there are certainly anti-e properties of Epi, and prop includes a little anti-e, the problem is they are both androgenic and suppressive, and you don't run those into your pct, so you need something that's got your back for an anti-e in pct, and I just wouldn't bet on PCS. If you want to experiment, you could run just the PCS and a healthy (~600mg) dose of I3C - that way if the PCS doesn't stop the E, the I3C should keep it from turning into "bad" E. Not a super suppressive cycle, so not a bad way to go; it's pretty cheep at that dose here:
NSI I3C (Indole-3-Carbinol) with Broccoli Extract -- 120 Capsules - Vitacost
And that brand is on D_'s approved list... now, we just need the TF/LB store to start carrying this stuff.
Oh, and now that I realize he was joking, I get the intended humor... it's almost funny...  ...problem is I've read too many posts over at AM that were talking like this seriously.
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Thanks. XJ recommended the I3C too. I have to stop by my local vitamin store or put in an order. I agree, lot of trolls at AM just looking to start crap.
Thanks again for the input.
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06-02-2008, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by xjsynx
Welcome back
2000kcal? Mijia was right; you are Manorexic
I am around 2700kcal, maybe drop it down to 2500kcal this week though.
Anywho, g'luck
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He's smaller... I mean weighs less than us.
But yeah, I think starting out at around 2400 would be good for wil's weight, and then lower it down to 2000 over the duration.
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06-02-2008, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by thewilman
I just logged the actual MM...let's see...it seems to be somewhere between 12.29 and and 10.45...so I would guess around 12%.
EDIT: According to this site: Body Fat Calculator
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My chart puts you higher than 12% for your age. But I don't believe it.
Anyway, did anyone else find that drawing of the woman in the link arousing?

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06-02-2008, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bitterplacebo
He's smaller... I mean weighs less than us.
But yeah, I think starting out at around 2400 would be good for wil's weight, and then lower it down to 2000 over the duration.
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I was already dieting for the past few weeks at around 1700 to 2000. But I seem to be hungrier today. Could just be placebo effect, bitter that is!
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Originally Posted by bitterplacebo
My chart puts you higher than 12% for your age. But I don't believe it.
Anyway, did anyone else find that drawing of the woman in the link arousing?

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I'm not sure...I know I'm not as lean I'd like to be, but leaner than I've been. My appendages (I like saying appendages) are very lean, but I carry most of my fat in my upper body.
Yes, she has a great body...the guy's not bad either! :Little emoticon lying on back kicking his skinny little legs in an apparent laughing fit that has caused him to roll around the floor:
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06-02-2008, 06:52 PM
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Status: Muscle Dysmorphic
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Originally Posted by roadcruzr1969
I hope it goes well ROIDER... remember what happened to lyle alzedo. Why don't u ask him how he fared. oh no wait he's DEAD. dead from using steroids. I hope it's worth it.
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Grow a brain troll
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In 1992, NFL football player Lyle Alzado died from brain cancer, which he attributed to the use of anabolic steroids.However, although steroids have been known to cause liver cancer, there is no published evidence that anabolic steroids cause either brain cancer or the specific type of T-cell lymphoma that caused his death. Alzado's doctors stated that anabolic steroids did not contribute to his death.
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06-02-2008, 06:57 PM
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